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Open Video on a more Open Internet
fohfoh:
Flash is ok... but kind of annoying...
What about NSV? Winamp proprietary format?
kyanwan:
--- Quote from: fohfoh on July 07, 2009, 06:03:21 AM ---Flash is ok... but kind of annoying...
What about NSV? Winamp proprietary format?
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IMO - this, the P-word is the the ultimate swear-word of the Internet & standardization.
I have absolutely no problems with Winamp - but - unless the format is either completely open / GPL, OR, patented for the sole purpose of making it freely usable (link is old, but it shows my point) - and forcing it to be such ... it's of no interest to anyone.
--- Quote from: dankles on July 07, 2009, 05:50:14 AM ---Yup. I've disliked flash for a long time. But then it went into adobes hands.... uuuugh~!
I hate that I need it installed ... thank god for the "flashblock" FF plugin!
I hope that <video> will help destroy flash 8)
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Uh-oh.
I hope <video> doesn't get raped like Flash did. Once upon a time, Flash wasn't annoying. :(
Now it's the web's asshole. I'm just thinking - way back when, we only had blink tags and little spinning IE logos . . . . now we've got these Indian-made canned sites with the spinning flash backgrounds, blinking lights, that annoying flapping page-corner, popping images flying out of the flash element ... gah.
And worst of the worst - those damn talking site-host (sitepal & little animated people giving you a lecture) features that the enterprising rednecks love oh-so-much. UGH.
dankles:
--- Quote from: kyanwan on July 07, 2009, 06:27:22 AM ---patented for the sole purpose of making it freely usable (link is old, but it shows my point)
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Wait, so the guy is using a patent to protect the free software comunity? Am I reading that correctly? If so, wow! Thats actually cool. And here I thought all software patents were evil....
kyanwan:
--- Quote from: dankles on July 07, 2009, 06:42:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: kyanwan on July 07, 2009, 06:27:22 AM ---patented for the sole purpose of making it freely usable (link is old, but it shows my point)
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Wait, so the guy is using a patent to protect the free software comunity? Am I reading that correctly? If so, wow! Thats actually cool. And here I thought all software patents were evil....
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What the guy did is made a legal document licensing his patents under the GPL. The guy took credit for his own accomplishments, protects them from rape by bastards like Xerox (assholes) - then releases it for everyone to use - freely. ( I see there that what that guy did was opened up for GIMP & Ghostscript - two awesome apps ) You gives some real legal teeth to open source by having a patent on it.
This, is admirable.
What would be even cooler - is to legally assign patents for killer technology to FSF/GNU - that, would kick even more ass.
c614h2:
The trouble with ogg thedora is that it's shit. I suppose it might compare favorable to, I don't know, old versions of real media, and it can deliver quality at least similar to what's on youtube, but that isn't saying very much.
Still. Better than flash.
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