Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza 3

[fohfoh]

I laugh when people compare stuff like xbox vs ps2, or forza 2 vs GT4. Give it a rest already retards. GT4 was release almost 4 years ago. Forza 2 was released around a year and half a year ago. Apples and oranges. The 1 year release of forza 3 is a half assed attempt at best. It's "better" but what's it comparing to? People are going to praise it vs something that was created from itself and something that was created 4 years ago? (You could technically compare it to GT5 prologue, but that's not really a game. It's like a super long demo)

Forza might end up holding a crown, but for how long? I'm going to bet that GT5 is going to hold out as being a better game for a lot longer time than any (or forth coming) forza game. Then, some Forza 7 or something is going to claim being better than GT5 maybe after 3-4 years and the retards will believe it. (Because it's true, but it's like comparing a 1987 BMW M3 e30 vs a 2008 M3 due to the speed of technology). Then a new GT6... and again. Greatness for a longer time period.

Seriously though, many of the comments I see from Forza fans are somewhat silly. "OMFG SO REALISTIC!" From what? Your piece of shit 1992 corolla? These are the retards who actually think going 20-40 kmph over the speed limit is "fucking amazing". I recall watching Stage 4 of initial D and was like, "Fuck that's cool!". Driving fast in my parent's Nissan Maxima and Honda Odyssey. So fast one time that I heard the tires squeal on the Odyssey from the time I entered the turn, till I finished the turn. (maybe 3-5 seconds?) But yeah. Now that I look back, stupid thing to do. But I remember driving faster than many BMW 3 series, Ford Mustangs and such. Acceleration? Probably on par with some car that has 20-30HP less. Racing "sims" don't show that. They have to show that a car kicks ass vs a "heavy van/truck". In GT4, a 150HP civic probably accelerates faster than a 210 or 220 HP honda odyssey. (NOT TRUE IN REAL LIFE)

Racing sims are cool to waste time. But the more that people begin claiming "OMFG REALISTIC!" makes me laugh. (Realistic... maybe. But as soon as people believe they know about cars due to that game... you know you're dealing with a fanboy retard who can't differentiate reality from virtual reality)

By the way, did anyone ever read the "gamers vs real racers" automotive article? They had a bunch of guys who were racing sims fans go against actual formula drivers. One sim racer stood out amongst the rest and may have had a chance to beat the formula one driver if his vehicle didn't have issues. However, I believe more than half of the racing sim kids were total fail, and I suspect the remainder were people who actually drive their cars like crazy in real life and have experienced some g-forces from crazy turns and experienced what it's like being behind the wheel of a car going 150kmph + (OMFG 30 kmph OVER SPEED LIMIT!)

* fohfoh remembers going 170 kmph in his 127 HP Acura El 1.6. (Totally suprised that car even went that fast. THANKS RACING SIMS FOR MAKING ME BELIEVE BULLSHIT!)

[vicious796]

Your starting point is something that I would still like to point out:

Forza will have 2 releases before GT has 1.

Are the GT games superior? Generally speaking yes, but that doesn't mean Forza is not a quality game. There can only be 1 best (and as I've stated GT has been that best throughout history) but that doesn't mean it can't have a good competition. That's why I said before, I'll be rockin Forza 4 while you guys are still waiting on how great a game GT5 is going to be. It better be the best game ever with the huge amount of developing time it's had.

[costi]

So, what was the release date of GT5 again?

...

Thought so.

You know, I don't really care which one will be better. I'm not a huge fan of driving games, and Burnout Paradise satisfies my needs in that respect.
However, before the competition between Forza 3 and GT5 even starts, GT5 needs to hit the shelves, and I really don't see that coming in the near future. It's kinda sad, really, since Gran Turismo was always one of the hallmarks of the Playstation series, and after two years from the PS3's debut all we have is a demo we have to pay for...

Oh, BTW - neither the GT series nor the Forza series are simulators. rFactor, GTR, GT legends - those are real sims, Forza and GT, while aiming to achieve a certain level of realism, are arcade games compared to these.

[vicious796]

If I recall properly though, those are all not readily available and have the 'ease of use' that these two mainstream games have.

[costi]

Define "readily available"? Dunno about where you live, but here I go to a game store, take rFactor from the shelf and go pay

As for "ease of use" - their main point is realism, so the learning curve is rather steep. If I recall correctly, ale least GT Legends offered some optional driving aids (which made life only a little easier ). They aren't exactly mainstream games, though. They're to driving games what Falcon 4.0 is in the world of flight sims.

[fohfoh]

Vicious, the point of my post is about comparison. The comparison is null, void. It's garbage. So why bother? Both are games to play when they come out. Comparing the two is like ricer retards screaming EVO X vs STi! Both are great machines, but both will be shitty in their grubby, greasy amateur hands. Don't even both talking about "max speed". It's a fucking straight line. Not hard to drive, and you probably don't have the balls to drive at the max potential speed anyways.

Based on the games...

If someone asks which is better. I shrug and say "just try both, but I personally don't like Forza."
If someone asks which to buy, I'll ask which console they own and tell them to buy for that console. If they have both, I'll tell him/her not to be a cheap fuck and just buy both.
I had great fun with the GT series, so I'll probably get that when it comes out. (buy a pS3 for it too if required, but currently going to buy an xbox elite to "upgrade" my original xbox.
Racing games... I'll go with project gotham or need for speed arcade. Forza annoyed me to no end when I played it before. (I was excited for it too when I read reviews and stuff, but playing pissed me off.) I'm no video game retard by any means, but damn that game was screwy. For my xbox360, I'm pretty sure i'll have some fun. But it won't be with forza.

If you like forza, play forza. If you like GT, play GT. If you like both, play both. But if you try to compare the two, I'm going to call you an idiot and just tell you to go drive a car in real life really fast. And if you argue realism. I'll tell you to do doughnuts in a parking lot and add that I hope you crash into a light post because that's the level of intelligence I'm detecting.

[Tatsujin]

Vicious, the point of my post is about comparison. The comparison is null, void. It's garbage. So why bother? Both are games to play when they come out. Comparing the two is like ricer retards screaming EVO X vs STi! Both are great machines, but both will be shitty in their grubby, greasy amateur hands. Don't even both talking about "max speed". It's a fucking straight line. Not hard to drive, and you probably don't have the balls to drive at the max potential speed anyways.

Based on the games...

If someone asks which is better. I shrug and say "just try both, but I personally don't like Forza."
If someone asks which to buy, I'll ask which console they own and tell them to buy for that console. If they have both, I'll tell him/her not to be a cheap fuck and just buy both.
I had great fun with the GT series, so I'll probably get that when it comes out. (buy a pS3 for it too if required, but currently going to buy an xbox elite to "upgrade" my original xbox.
Racing games... I'll go with project gotham or need for speed arcade. Forza annoyed me to no end when I played it before. (I was excited for it too when I read reviews and stuff, but playing pissed me off.) I'm no video game retard by any means, but damn that game was screwy. For my xbox360, I'm pretty sure i'll have some fun. But it won't be with forza.

If you like forza, play forza. If you like GT, play GT. If you like both, play both. But if you try to compare the two, I'm going to call you an idiot and just tell you to go drive a car in real life really fast. And if you argue realism. I'll tell you to do doughnuts in a parking lot and add that I hope you crash into a light post because that's the level of intelligence I'm detecting.

If you have a PS3, get GT5. If you have a 360, get Forza 3.

And GT5 will be released oh ... this year? Keep your Internet updated. =] I'll be sure to keep this thread updated ~ It's very sad to know some people don't know why GT5 is in such a long, long development ... unlike Forza 3.

The trailers will tell you everything. Votes, people, and journalists included. =] Oh wait, didn't Microsoft tried to bribe their own fans for voting and yet they still were outclassed by GT5?! ... Oh wait, not enough? Second link ~ Amusing, and it's on CNET for fuck sucks sakes. How lame can Microsoft get. I don't need to add the 1080p upscale from the 720p for Forza 3, do I?! .................

If you wanna keep talking smack. I'm all for it. Otherwise, end it here.

[costi]

My fanboy radar is tingling...

And GT5 will be released oh ... this year?

We've been hearing that for the past two years...

[Tatsujin]

My fanboy radar is tingling...

And GT5 will be released oh ... this year?

We've been hearing that for the past two years...

We'll see.

[bloody000]

Oh, BTW - neither the GT series nor the Forza series are simulators. rFactor, GTR, GT legends - those are real sims, Forza and GT, while aiming to achieve a certain level of realism, are arcade games compared to these.

Ah yes, you saved me the trouble of saying it. :-)

[Tatsujin]

Oh, BTW - neither the GT series nor the Forza series are simulators. rFactor, GTR, GT legends - those are real sims, Forza and GT, while aiming to achieve a certain level of realism, are arcade games compared to these.

Ah yes, you saved me the trouble of saying it. :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT_Legends

Because its a PC game?! ... Please man. It's in 2005 as well. I'd love to play in realism as well so I'll stick with GT5 as others will stick with Forza 3.

[bloody000]

Oh, BTW - neither the GT series nor the Forza series are simulators. rFactor, GTR, GT legends - those are real sims, Forza and GT, while aiming to achieve a certain level of realism, are arcade games compared to these.

Ah yes, you saved me the trouble of saying it. :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT_Legends

Because its a PC game?! ... Please man. It's in 2005 as well. I'd love to play in realism as well so I'll stick with GT5 as others will stick with Forza 3.

Because you are a console fanboy? Please dude. You people talked about simulation and yet you don't even recognize these games. FAIL.

[Tatsujin]

Oh, BTW - neither the GT series nor the Forza series are simulators. rFactor, GTR, GT legends - those are real sims, Forza and GT, while aiming to achieve a certain level of realism, are arcade games compared to these.

Ah yes, you saved me the trouble of saying it. :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT_Legends

Because its a PC game?! ... Please man. It's in 2005 as well. I'd love to play in realism as well so I'll stick with GT5 as others will stick with Forza 3.

Because you are a console fanboy? Please dude. You people talked about simulation and yet you don't even recognize these games. FAIL.

No, that game pretty much sucks big time. Don't bring PC games to Console threads, fucking tard. Why don't you go make a PC FAIL thread? Stay on topic. Thread's name is:-

Gran Turismo vs. Forza 3

[bloody000]

No, that game pretty much sucks big time. Don't bring PC games to Console threads, fucking tard. Why don't you go make a PC FAIL thread? Stay on topic. Thread's name is:-
Gran Turismo vs. Forza 3

Of course it sucks. anything without huge hype sucks. right, console tard?
hmmm it must be very wrong to bring other racing games into a thread about two racing games I supposed.
If you want it to stay strictly between gt and forza so badly, why the fuck did you replied in the first place? You could've just ignore it and keep posting. But you can't, you feeling like replying, then you want others to shut up. Maybe you felt like your "ownership" of this thread was violated?

[Tatsujin]

No, that game pretty much sucks big time. Don't bring PC games to Console threads, fucking tard. Why don't you go make a PC FAIL thread? Stay on topic. Thread's name is:-
Gran Turismo vs. Forza 3

Of course it sucks. anything without huge hype sucks. right, console tard?
hmmm it must be very wrong to bring other racing games into a thread about two racing games I supposed.
If you want it to stay strictly between gt and forza so badly, why the fuck did you replied in the first place? You could've just ignore it and keep posting. But you can't, you feeling like replying, then you want others to shut up. Maybe you felt like your "ownership" of this thread was violated?

Shut the fuck up and go make a PC thread game. And for the record, noob, it is listed under rules to stay ON TOPIC. Go take your time and read the rules.

And for the record, the game does suck. I played it. My opinion as an individual. Save yourself some breath and stop posting in console threads and quit getting off topic.

[bloody000]

OMG OMG he didn't talked about fucking forza or fucking GT!11!

...wait, how is mentioning other racing games in a thread about two racing games off-topic in the first place?

Now, I think I can be certain that your feeling of "ownership" as a thread starter is indeed hurt.

[Tatsujin]

OMG OMG he didn't talked about fucking forza or fucking GT!11!

...wait, how is mentioning other racing games in a thread about two racing games off-topic in the first place?

Now, I think I can be certain that your feeling of "ownership" as a thread starter is indeed hurt.

No, you just fail at reading the rules and further more, you're acting like a kid. Or maybe you are a kid? The thread is Gran Turismo vs. Forza 3. Not some other racing games. Read it again:- Gran Turismo vs. Forza 3. Sigh, there's nothing else I could say or do. You're failing pretty damn bad. Good luck.

[MadHatter]

OK guys break it up.  
stay on topic this is a Gran Turismo vs. Forza 3 thread,
if you don't like it, then please create a thread which you would like to talk about your subject

Please also tone down on the language

[fohfoh]

I always laugh when fanboys (Doesn't matter which side) start bragging about their car on games.

I like using the Lancer EVO vs Nissan Skyline R34 is not the same as "I have a souped out 1000HP Nissan R34 on my racing game". THe above guys are the aforementioned retards who can't determine reality and fantasy.

Also, arcades are the ones that are going to catch on for mainstream. No one needs a pure simulator as a "game". Leave that shit to people who want theory to test before applying to real world. However, arcade retard children are basically the same as the real life stupid shits who begin to brag about how their M3 drove faster than a civic or whether a Porche 911 will beat a modded Porche 944 and getting into fist fights about it.

#1: More horsepower vs similar vehicles, 90% of the time in a straight line, morehorsepower wins. ut most can easily tell what is a lopsided comparison.
#2: If you're going to argue cars in real life. Just race the fucking two and get that shit over with.
#3: If you don't drive fast in real life, shut the fuck up about going fast in cars. You're obviously tainting the image of said car(s).

* fohfoh ends rants about video game retards and not about users in this thread.

[forevr]

The British television show Top Gear answers all the questions no one asked about cars in regards to the above post.
Easily the best car show ever and, imho, one of the best television shows overall.

New season starts on Sunday!