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ConsiderPhlebas:
Not getting into the quality of the review, not interested in reading such things, being a huge lover of the TYPE-MOON animes but not interested in VN, I do think one is entitled to have an opinion on them as stand-alone animes. So I reserve my rights to adore them  ;)

froody1911:

--- Quote from: Tatsujin on December 22, 2013, 06:51:06 PM ---Fate/Zero is made for fans who understand the series.

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This is not a good thing in any form of media. Dependency on previous installations of a franchise is usually considered a bad thing. It should have ideally been able to stand by itself.


--- Quote from: Tatsujin on December 22, 2013, 06:51:06 PM ---Just go look at the rating on this thing and read other more suitable reviews about the series.

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...so everyone should have approximately the same opinion about popular things?


--- Quote from: Tatsujin on December 22, 2013, 06:51:06 PM ---Also, that review is from an official anime site. Shouldn't it have better insight on what he's exactly talking about? Or just randomly babble stupid shit?

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Well see that's what I'm saying, he didn't just criticize, he actually explained why he doesn't like it. I don't think that's 'random stupid shit' or lacking insight. Or does anything that you can't agree with automatically become nonsense?
Oh and ANN is a fansite (like other english anime sites), not official.


--- Quote from: Tatsujin on December 22, 2013, 06:51:06 PM ---So have you read the light novel? Or played the game?

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Everything fate-related except Hollow Ataraxia and the Ilya spinoff crap.

To clarify: I don't agree with that guy because I mostly liked the anime. I'm just amazed by the reaction people have to this review and I think it's a bad reflection on the anime community.

Tatsujin:
^ Ah you are right about the fan site statement.

My problem with what he said contradicts with how you should be reviewing a series. Now if Fate/Zero was the VERY BEGINNING of the whole Fate series then I can't argue with that. But Fate/Zero came after the release of Fate/Stay Night. It's also based on the light novel.

I'll give you two examples of what he speaks about and I see him casting sarcasm or not sufficient enough of information:

One is how he speaks about large heroes and heroines appearing - all about kings and queens - those who conquer and be conquered. There's a specific reason, special features that the Holy Grail applies to these certain rules. One, the Holy Grail is not going to summon some low-class hero/heroine to fight other heroes. Two, the Holy Grail is attracted to those who have a high level of regret towards something. Usually, the bigger the hero - spoken about, written about, achievements and failures, the higher the chances of them being summoned. This was explained thoroughly in the game. So for someone to come about and speak with ignorance like and posts it as a review. Seriously? That's just wrong. That shouldn't even be a review at all.

Two, Kiritsugu and Kirei trying to outthink each other—falls flat. The two characters are too alike, both playing the "silent tough guy" role, and their dreary gray-and-brown personalities make it hard to enjoy the conflict. As stated by the poster, has once again no clue what he's talking about. He has no idea who these characters are. Rather, Kirei is never explained to the full extent - possibly if I have to rate it, maybe 5%ish or so you would get to know a little about him. Specially about the part with his wife. Kirei's personality and behavior is more explained in UTW and especially Heaven's Feel arcs. Kiritsugu on the other hand has his story explained in the second half of Fate/Zero - at least his past, but not his achievements and certain parts of his life only are available in the game.

So the review, in all, is filled with a lot of ignorance. I get that he is reviewing only the first 13 episodes of Fate/Zero. But this is either 1. biased or 2. this guy is ignorant and didn't explain things thoroughly as they should. These guys, most of them, are getting paid to do this. This isn't fan for fan site where you don't get paid at all. If I were to pull a fan-review about Fate/Zero they'll do a hell of a better job on it. Let's see ... Random Curiosity. Pretty popular, and they go in-depth per episode.

That's about it.

Tatsujin:
News.

The new Fate/Stay Night will adventure in the next generation which is the Fifth Holy Grail War. This is without a doubt Heaven's Feel arc. First half of the teaser video reveals scenes from Fate/Zero as the second half is completely new scenes, animation and jaw-dropping graphics. Everything you know about Fate/Stay Night animation needs to get wiped or you'll scream pretty hard while watching the second half of the 3 minute teaser.

Link. Also, the full reveal will be on January 30th of 2014 - a whole decade from when Fate/Stay Night VN was released on January 30th of 2004.

It will be a TV series, too!

Mistgun_Zero:
Since on phone I can't see the video, but yes!!!! Finally the heaven feels arc.

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