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Fate Series [Fate/Stay Night UBW First Press LE BD Box I]
Mkilbride:
Wow, I can't believe someone actually thinks what you think. I don't mean to be rude, but wow, as someone whose seen the anime, the movies, the prequels, the VN multiple times, ect, I always thought Saber was more manly and Shirou was merely a jumping off point and all her own development happened independent of him. Didn't seem at all like he made her into a submissive girl.
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: Mimishiki19 on June 06, 2014, 12:53:11 PM ---It really doesn't matter if the VN was this or that or that series had another piece of information. Stop bringing it. It doesn't count.
Who was Shiro to tell her what is wrong and what is right? A nobody. Also male meaning he had every right to dictate her life, her choices, her thoughts. A penis with less personality than an actual penis.
A 16 year old girl who was also a KING. A ruler of a country that become more of a tool for Shiro than she ever was Kiritsugu. At least he respected her.
Shiro did not. Her desires were invalid and replaced with the right ones, Shiro's.She was never treated like an actual person. She was treated like a girl and in this context it is less than an actual person.
Her entire existence became about him. Pleasing him. I think I was 16-18 when I first saw Fate and it still made me sick watching it unfold.
If you insist on bringing up the VN, I'll remind you that her character's slaughter is even more pronounced. At least the part I could play. I couldn't finish it.
--- End quote ---
Finish it or stop arguing. What are you basing all of this on? The anime? You think just watching everything that has been released up to this point will tell you anything about Saber? The visual novel has your answers and it will explain why Shirou is the way he is. He's the complete opposite of Kiritsu (spelling?). Shirou is a terrible character in the Fate Arc and not many people like him. He's pretty bad ass in UBW and he's the highlight character in HF. He's one of the reasons why I want to see HF so badly, besides seeing the Alter characters (including Saber Alter) and seeing how Sakura got tortured so badly by her family.
I still feel for Sakura. Sucks how much shit she went through (click to show/hide)without Rin even knowing.
Anyways, gather up sometime and play the novel.
froody1911:
Now now kids, no need to be so confrontational. Just people stating their opinions.
Tatsujin:
Fate/Prototype probably a new art book. It looks really cool. I haven't checked amazon (japan) yet. :P
Mistgun_Zero:
Fate/Kaleid Illya Prisma 2wei is out now.
~Yay.
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