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« Reply #100 on: August 20, 2009, 01:53:09 AM »
I was on the THORA's IRC channel earlier chatting about the inability to buy Blu-ray discs, and I was told, if anyone had ideas on helping them get source media they are happy to listen. Drop them a line via email or on the channel. But obviously be reasonable about it. Hopefully something will work out soon.

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« Reply #101 on: August 20, 2009, 01:56:51 AM »
So when's the release, at least its faster than Big-Guy, I hope.
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« Reply #102 on: August 20, 2009, 02:21:32 AM »
I was on the THORA's IRC channel earlier chatting about the inability to buy Blu-ray discs, and I was told, if anyone had ideas on helping them get source media they are happy to listen. Drop them a line via email or on the channel. But obviously be reasonable about it. Hopefully something will work out soon.
What anime are they having problems with anyway? I know they have problems with Sins and Hatchin.

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« Reply #103 on: August 20, 2009, 02:50:54 AM »
What anime are they having problems with anyway? I know they have problems with Sins and Hatchin.
I don't know for certain, apart from those two, but I would guess Ride Back and Toaru Majutsu no Index are since they have been stalled for sometime. Spice and Wolf is questionable too, but I know niizk found a source.

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« Reply #104 on: August 20, 2009, 09:12:13 AM »
I don't know for certain, apart from those two, but I would guess Ride Back and Toaru Majutsu no Index are since they have been stalled for sometime.

The last release for Ride Back was in July. That hardly strikes me as 'stalled for sometime'.

I'd personally mention Ef - A Tale of Melodies, they've been stalled on that one since April.

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« Reply #105 on: August 20, 2009, 09:24:06 AM »
I don't know for certain, apart from those two, but I would guess Ride Back and Toaru Majutsu no Index are since they have been stalled for sometime.

The last release for Ride Back was in July. That hardly strikes me as 'stalled for sometime'.

I'd personally mention Ef - A Tale of Melodies, they've been stalled on that one since April.
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« Reply #106 on: August 20, 2009, 12:37:46 PM »
So, I took a look on Share... Rideback is NOT stalled due to an unavailability of source. It's released up to episode 8 (Present). In fact, it is usually available the day after release in Japan.

To Aru Index has up to episode 21 available on Share (Present)

Michiko to Hatchin, I can't find anything for.

Spice+Wolf came as a box set. There should be no such thing as "lack of sources" if the first episode is available, because cappers upload all discs at once.

ef has all sources available, so there is no reason for the stall there.

Casshern is missing the sources.

Gundam 00 is missing the subs.

So, there's the stall reasons I can deduct.

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« Reply #107 on: August 20, 2009, 02:09:22 PM »
So, I took a look on Share... Rideback is NOT stalled due to an unavailability of source. It's released up to episode 8 (Present). In fact, it is usually available the day after release in Japan.

To Aru Index has up to episode 21 available on Share (Present)

Michiko to Hatchin, I can't find anything for.

Spice+Wolf came as a box set. There should be no such thing as "lack of sources" if the first episode is available, because cappers upload all discs at once.

ef has all sources available, so there is no reason for the stall there.

Casshern is missing the sources.

Gundam 00 is missing the subs.

So, there's the stall reasons I can deduct.
yup, I don't see any problems with the raws I've been downloading. I've downloaded a bunch of Melodies (before the Sakura one was put up on TT), I've downloaded Macross Frontier (1080p, and it's better than THORA's release ... odd.) And I've download Fate/Stay Night (again, better than THORA's ...). So what's the big deal with getting the RAWs rather than buying them, makign ISO's then doing whatever they're doing.


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Re: Blu-ray Fansubs
« Reply #108 on: August 20, 2009, 06:12:14 PM »
När man talar om trollen... THORA just released Melodies 9 and 10, so perhaps we'll finally see complete releases for ef in 1080p.

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« Reply #109 on: August 20, 2009, 06:29:14 PM »
So, I took a look on Share... Rideback is NOT stalled due to an unavailability of source. It's released up to episode 8 (Present). In fact, it is usually available the day after release in Japan.
I base my view on what is currently available in the market, not on share (don't know where to find this though). Thora has only released to episode 6 and disc for 9-10 should be out by the end of the week, 10-12 next month. Seems stalled.

To Aru Index has up to episode 21 available on Share (Present)
Series is out in full, so as THORA is still at episode 14, stall.

yup, I don't see any problems with the raws I've been downloading. I've downloaded a bunch of Melodies (before the Sakura one was put up on TT), I've downloaded Macross Frontier (1080p, and it's better than THORA's release ... odd.) And I've download Fate/Stay Night (again, better than THORA's ...). So what's the big deal with getting the RAWs rather than buying them, makign ISO's then doing whatever they're doing.
Out of curiosity, how are they better?

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« Reply #110 on: August 20, 2009, 06:46:12 PM »
ISOs allow you to have full access to an unaltered source. By using raws, you're relying on someone else's encoding. So with the ISO, you can change things if you don't like the way the encode comes out, etc.
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« Reply #111 on: August 20, 2009, 07:06:57 PM »
So, I took a look on Share... Rideback is NOT stalled due to an unavailability of source. It's released up to episode 8 (Present). In fact, it is usually available the day after release in Japan.
I base my view on what is currently available in the market, not on share (don't know where to find this though). Thora has only released to episode 6 and disc for 9-10 should be out by the end of the week, 10-12 next month. Seems stalled.

To Aru Index has up to episode 21 available on Share (Present)
Series is out in full, so as THORA is still at episode 14, stall.

yup, I don't see any problems with the raws I've been downloading. I've downloaded a bunch of Melodies (before the Sakura one was put up on TT), I've downloaded Macross Frontier (1080p, and it's better than THORA's release ... odd.) And I've download Fate/Stay Night (again, better than THORA's ...). So what's the big deal with getting the RAWs rather than buying them, makign ISO's then doing whatever they're doing.
Out of curiosity, how are they better?
.flac sound (done numerous tests, 2-3 hours on Macross Frontier and F/SN files) and I've done encoding on both sides. The clear sound in THORA is sweet as hell, but the files I've gotten had a better detail sound, more clear and had a better impact -- like Lance attacking Shirou and Shirou deflecting his attacks. Episode 21 (or 22?) In MF when the horde swamp of Varja come out of no where and Klan comes out and shoots everything. Episodes 1, 7, 9, 13, 21, 23 in MF ... episodes. For Fate/Stay Night, I focused only on episode 3 (didn't open the other episodes --I could provide torrent link if you need, PM Me and I'll send it after I get back home).

As for picture quality, 720p is less than a million pixels as for 1080p is over 2 million pixels (google is your best friend, wikipedia to further assist). No matter how you slice it and you dice it those two are facts. If you've got a 1080p TV with 30-40" you'll mostly want a 1080p to get a better picture quality. Not like the 720p is "the sweet spot" for core anime fans like me. As for display screens with 1050p (1680 width) or 1080/1200p (1920 width) I haven't noticed so much detail between the two. I have display of 1680x1050 (maybe that's the reason? 240 difference in width and 30 in height. Or computer monitors don't really matter?) and I haven't hooked my TV up, wouldn't even matter since its 720p until I purchase a 1080p later in the coming months. But for the fact that I watch my movies on my 720p TV and I've taken them to my uncles to watch it on his 1080p, there is such a damn difference ... 1 million pixels more gave crisper colors, stronger picture quality, more details ... who wouldn't say no to that?

I love THORA, I have no "buts" to add and I accept any releases from 720p and 1080p. I am just thirsty for more quality when I know it's out there and I can get my hands on it.

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« Reply #112 on: August 20, 2009, 09:29:35 PM »
.flac sound ... As for picture quality, 720p is less than a million pixels as for 1080p
So basically FLAC sound encode and on some 1080p instead of 720p, right? Not that much difference in the end, because you have to consider many of the current releases are upscales, and the Japanese audio tends to 2.0, not the nice 5.1 or 7.1.

As a fan of FLAC, I don't see any advantage in using it for video files, especially when the initial quality (stereo 2.0) really doesn't call for it. And also FLAC still seems to be a mystery to most software people, so playback or burning become quite difficult.

I do wish THORA would release more 1080p stuff, but my view is, if I like in enough when in is out on Blu-ray in North America, I'll buy. If I don't like it (Afro Samurai >:(), I delete it.

And for the record, I know a lot about HD resolution and encoding as I work with it all the time. But thanks for the explanation again.

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« Reply #113 on: August 20, 2009, 09:50:25 PM »
.flac sound ... As for picture quality, 720p is less than a million pixels as for 1080p
So basically FLAC sound encode and on some 1080p instead of 720p, right? Not that much difference in the end, because you have to consider many of the current releases are upscales, and the Japanese audio tends to 2.0, not the nice 5.1 or 7.1.

As a fan of FLAC, I don't see any advantage in using it for video files, especially when the initial quality (stereo 2.0) really doesn't call for it. And also FLAC still seems to be a mystery to most software people, so playback or burning become quite difficult.

I do wish THORA would release more 1080p stuff, but my view is, if I like in enough when in is out on Blu-ray in North America, I'll buy. If I don't like it (Afro Samurai >:(), I delete it.

And for the record, I know a lot about HD resolution and encoding as I work with it all the time. But thanks for the explanation again.
I'm debating if the 1080p on those versions are upscales or not. I doubt they are since they're coming from QYQ (some Japanese rippers/encoders). The only way to tell is to hook it up to a 1080p TV and flip between the 720p and 1080p. :| I need a 1920x1080 monitor ... badly.


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« Reply #114 on: August 20, 2009, 11:06:05 PM »
I'm debating if the 1080p on those versions are upscales or not. I doubt they are since they're coming from QYQ (some Japanese rippers/encoders). The only way to tell is to hook it up to a 1080p TV and flip between the 720p and 1080p. :| I need a 1920x1080 monitor ... badly.
The official site for F/NS says the release is 1080i not 1080p, which I always read as an upscale. Macross F is likely not an upscale but hard to tell (source is officially 1080p).

I have have a 1920x1200 monitor which is great. Except for some odd reason it doesn't have HDCP so I can't use a digital source like HDMI or DVI, which it has. So I have to watch HD via VGA :(.

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« Reply #115 on: August 21, 2009, 02:29:00 AM »
I'm debating if the 1080p on those versions are upscales or not. I doubt they are since they're coming from QYQ (some Japanese rippers/encoders). The only way to tell is to hook it up to a 1080p TV and flip between the 720p and 1080p. :| I need a 1920x1080 monitor ... badly.
The official site for F/NS says the release is 1080i not 1080p, which I always read as an upscale. Macross F is likely not an upscale but hard to tell (source is officially 1080p).

I have have a 1920x1200 monitor which is great. Except for some odd reason it doesn't have HDCP so I can't use a digital source like HDMI or DVI, which it has. So I have to watch HD via VGA :(.
what the hell ............... I'd puke very hard. I can't stand VGA. DVI turned my life to crystal.


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Re: Blu-ray Fansubs
« Reply #116 on: August 21, 2009, 05:57:13 AM »
I'm debating if the 1080p on those versions are upscales or not. I doubt they are since they're coming from QYQ (some Japanese rippers/encoders). The only way to tell is to hook it up to a 1080p TV and flip between the 720p and 1080p. :| I need a 1920x1080 monitor ... badly.
The official site for F/NS says the release is 1080i not 1080p, which I always read as an upscale. Macross F is likely not an upscale but hard to tell (source is officially 1080p).

I have have a 1920x1200 monitor which is great. Except for some odd reason it doesn't have HDCP so I can't use a digital source like HDMI or DVI, which it has. So I have to watch HD via VGA :(.
what the hell ............... I'd puke very hard. I can't stand VGA. DVI turned my life to crystal.
Same here, DVI is a must!!
You don't need HDCP to play 1080p mkv files, only Blu-Rei video will have problems.
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« Reply #117 on: August 21, 2009, 06:20:39 AM »
So basically FLAC sound encode and on some 1080p instead of 720p, right? Not that much difference in the end, because you have to consider many of the current releases are upscales, and the Japanese audio tends to 2.0, not the nice 5.1 or 7.1.

As a fan of FLAC, I don't see any advantage in using it for video files, especially when the initial quality (stereo 2.0) really doesn't call for it. And also FLAC still seems to be a mystery to most software people, so playback or burning become quite difficult.

I do wish THORA would release more 1080p stuff, but my view is, if I like in enough when in is out on Blu-ray in North America, I'll buy. If I don't like it (Afro Samurai >:(), I delete it.

And for the record, I know a lot about HD resolution and encoding as I work with it all the time. But thanks for the explanation again.
Playback is a problem with FLAC.

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« Reply #118 on: August 21, 2009, 10:47:49 AM »
So basically FLAC sound encode and on some 1080p instead of 720p, right? Not that much difference in the end, because you have to consider many of the current releases are upscales, and the Japanese audio tends to 2.0, not the nice 5.1 or 7.1.

As a fan of FLAC, I don't see any advantage in using it for video files, especially when the initial quality (stereo 2.0) really doesn't call for it. And also FLAC still seems to be a mystery to most software people, so playback or burning become quite difficult.

I do wish THORA would release more 1080p stuff, but my view is, if I like in enough when in is out on Blu-ray in North America, I'll buy. If I don't like it (Afro Samurai >:(), I delete it.

And for the record, I know a lot about HD resolution and encoding as I work with it all the time. But thanks for the explanation again.
Playback is a problem with FLAC.
for low or mid end computers, sure. i don't have a problem with my computer.


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« Reply #119 on: August 21, 2009, 11:39:54 AM »
You guys really should see what 1080p Thora Macross F looks like on a 56 inch HD TV... Dual monitors, FTW.