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relic2279:
Um, are there any stations that broadcast in 1080p? I'm not aware of any except for some experimental stuff ala DISH etc.
--- Quote ---All anime Blu-Rays in Japan are 1080p in their source format.
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But you just said
--- Quote ---1080p is an upscale, as it is with ALL 1080p anime.
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Implying all 1080p anime is upscaled 720p
So I'm a little confused as to what you think. Anyway you can clear it up?
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: kristen on September 10, 2009, 01:34:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: newy on September 09, 2009, 11:18:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: kristen on September 09, 2009, 11:13:19 PM ---Most of the 1080p that looks prettier than 720p is due to poor resizer methods.
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Hmm, I don't get this. Could you explain that? If a 1080p upscale looks better than the 720p encode wouldn't the resizer method be good? I have no idea how these things work that's why I would come to that conclusion.
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1080p looks better because TVs and BD players and stuff usually don't use more intense resizer methods, such as Spline64 or Lanczos4. They tend to use lighter methods, such as Bilinear of Bicubic, which loses details in the transition.
Tatsujin: All anime Blu-Rays in Japan are 1080p in their source format. Just like all TV in japan (save AT-X) is 1440x1080 or 1920x1080. But, just like you have station upscales, you have studio upscales in BD.
I can't show you Tears to Tiara 1080->720->1080 vs. 1080->1080 rips, but if it's OK, I could show you how some supposed "1080p" shows are upscales.
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Yea, support your theories. I'm an HD freak and hearing about this is ... it's news to me.
kristen:
--- Quote from: relic2279 on September 10, 2009, 01:54:24 AM ---Um, are there any stations that broadcast in 1080p? I'm not aware of any except for some experimental stuff ala DISH etc.
--- Quote ---All anime Blu-Rays in Japan are 1080p in their source format.
--- End quote ---
But you just said
--- Quote ---1080p is an upscale, as it is with ALL 1080p anime.
--- End quote ---
Implying all 1080p anime is upscaled 720p
So I'm a little confused as to what you think. Anyway you can clear it up?
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All anime is broadcast in 1080i. Sorry, 1080p was wrong. But, yeah, that's the broadcasting standards. However, it can look like complete carp, as I'm sure you saw in that K-On BS-TBS raw I posted. This is a station upscale from 480p or 720p, depending on the source they got.
Blu-Ray is 1080p, and is an upscale from 720p, unless it's a remake of an older series that wasn't planning on BDs and wasn't broadcast in HD (I.E., E7, Non-00 Gundam series, etc).
Anyways, Tatsujin, these frames are from Gundam 00's 1080p, which is supposed to be the best BD of all time. One is 1080->720->1080, one is 1080->1080->1080. This way, all resizer artifacts are canceled out by equal distribution.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8563/up1q.png
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7307/39773676.png
Can you see differences? I see a few minimal ones. Definitely nothing noticeable on playback. However, I want you to say which one you think is better first
BTW: This is all the theory. I like upscales to begin with because people don't have support for these fancy resizers, and because it's fun to make 1 GB K-ON BDs.
Lupin:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on September 10, 2009, 12:00:45 AM ---Edit -- So who's doing Code Geass R2 Blu-ray?! ... THORA isn't doing it probably.
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THORA used R1 subs and 720p only
Tomodachi is also doing R2 in both 1080p and 720p using gg's script.
THORA is confirmed to be doing Darker than Black. Stand Alone Complex will be released in 720p only.
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: kristen on September 10, 2009, 03:16:47 AM ---
--- Quote from: relic2279 on September 10, 2009, 01:54:24 AM ---Um, are there any stations that broadcast in 1080p? I'm not aware of any except for some experimental stuff ala DISH etc.
--- Quote ---All anime Blu-Rays in Japan are 1080p in their source format.
--- End quote ---
But you just said
--- Quote ---1080p is an upscale, as it is with ALL 1080p anime.
--- End quote ---
Implying all 1080p anime is upscaled 720p
So I'm a little confused as to what you think. Anyway you can clear it up?
--- End quote ---
All anime is broadcast in 1080i. Sorry, 1080p was wrong. But, yeah, that's the broadcasting standards. However, it can look like complete carp, as I'm sure you saw in that K-On BS-TBS raw I posted. This is a station upscale from 480p or 720p, depending on the source they got.
Blu-Ray is 1080p, and is an upscale from 720p, unless it's a remake of an older series that wasn't planning on BDs and wasn't broadcast in HD (I.E., E7, Non-00 Gundam series, etc).
Anyways, Tatsujin, these frames are from Gundam 00's 1080p, which is supposed to be the best BD of all time. One is 1080->720->1080, one is 1080->1080->1080. This way, all resizer artifacts are canceled out by equal distribution.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8563/up1q.png
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7307/39773676.png
Can you see differences? I see a few minimal ones. Definitely nothing noticeable on playback. However, I want you to say which one you think is better first
BTW: This is all the theory. I like upscales to begin with because people don't have support for these fancy resizers, and because it's fun to make 1 GB K-ON BDs.
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First one, since looking at his arm (darker side) and the chair part. You can tell there is a noticeable light/dark (whatever you call it) between the two. Tho' the difference is like very, very minimum.
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