2009 Best Phone

[kyanwan]

With all the apps, it's more like a modern PDA with a phone function. It even shares a LOT with its spiritual grandfather, the Newton Messagepad.

Yeah - I love it how all of the tech backwards people are raving about it - "ZOMG- it's the first handheld computing device with a telephone built in! "

( Yeah.   Uh, they've been around for years before your iPhone.  Learn moar tech. )

geoffreak ~ Nail on the head - almost.  AT&T & the mac-exclusive SDK are my problems with the iPhone.  They need to lose the mac-only SDK.   That will blow up their market.  

( "Oh, but the iphone only supports the fudgepack toolset of mac-os-goatse-point-five milfy cougar edition" ... yeah, things can be done to work around that.  There's something called: EMULATOR.   Oh, but the iPhone is too powerful.  [SMACK upside the temple with a spiked cudgel.    Yes, indeed, oh lord iPhone your power is too great for our humble desktops ... these mac purists with their stupid arguments.   Please.  Even the iPhone won't mainstream the mac. ] )

[ side rant:  Why in the fuck can everyone but me get into a fucking corporate IT department.   Fuck this shit. ]

[geoffreak]

With the iPhone, people actually have to work hard to find things to complain about.
It is funny because I work as an intern in the IT department of the company I'm working for, so I get to see things from a corporate perspective. The company currently deploys Blackberries to most of the employees, but recently many employees have been wanting iPhones, so we've finally decided to start supporting them. The biggest irony is our most outspoken anti-iPhone staff, after having an iPhone for about 48 hours, is now our most pro-iPhone.
Short of the people who hate AT&T (prices, coverage, dropped calls) or are just completely tech-retarded, I haven't met anyone who has wanted to not use an iPhone after a couple days of use. If you can get it, get it.

[fohfoh]

I'm not the type of person who likes smart phones. That's why I don't like the iphone. True, Smart phones includes all the above including blackberry, iPhone, Nokia N Series etc. I tinkered with the Nokia N series, interface pissed me off to shit. iPhone interface wasn't bad, but I really got annoyed at it really quick. (Was toying with a friend's jailbreaked Gen 1 one when he took off running with the BBPearl.)

I hate the typing style, the thing is ungodly to hold (slippery, but I hear there's ways around it) . Phone... Beyond the fact you can get used to using the weirdness of the shape, flatness of the phone, screwy weight distribution etc. I really hated the phone. It was like I was using a piece of shit CDMA phone all over again. (Probably fixed in the later gens, but why bother going later gen after the original gen?)

Don't get me wrong though, you can hate macbooks and still like the iphone. However, I don't like either. I hate the iTouch and iPhone interface even if it's "simple". I wouldn't mind grabbing an ipod for random music to listen in the car(easier playlists), but beyond that... Don't bother me with the touch and the iphone.

[Lupin]

Apple can't be wrong you know!

They can. I disagree with them on a number of things currently. It's just kind of silly when people start attacking their products with insubstantial statements simply because they don't like the company for some odd reason.

For example, if someone complained about the lack of carrier variety with the iPhone, I'd wholeheartedly agree with them. Basically, if you want to complain, please do so about a real issue.

Don't take that personally.

It doesn't mean that because they disagree with you means they're wrong.

You know lacking in the iphone? MMS

[bloody000]

I never understand why people could buy things first then find use for it later. Too many people buy expensive smartphones just because "OMFG it's so advance and cool!111!!".

[Lupin]

So they can brag them to their friends

[bloody000]

Get Your iPhone and Grindr now!
Stephen Fry approves!

[iindigo]

Apple can't be wrong you know!

They can. I disagree with them on a number of things currently. It's just kind of silly when people start attacking their products with insubstantial statements simply because they don't like the company for some odd reason.

For example, if someone complained about the lack of carrier variety with the iPhone, I'd wholeheartedly agree with them. Basically, if you want to complain, please do so about a real issue.

Don't take that personally.

It doesn't mean that because they disagree with you means they're wrong.

You know lacking in the iphone? MMS

Nope, MMS was added with 3.0 along with most other outstanding missing features.

[Lupin]

Nope, MMS was added with 3.0 along with most other outstanding missing features.

So they finally added it. It took them a third version of the OS to finally add it.

But MMS support is only available for 3G and 3GS. And only on carriers that support it. Good thing carriers in my country have it.

[BakaBT]

Originally posted by Malus:

Nope, MMS was added with 3.0 along with most other outstanding missing features.

So they finally added it. It took them a third version of the OS to finally add it.

But MMS support is only available for 3G and 3GS. And only on carriers that support it. Good thing carriers in my country have it.

lol its silly to use that as an excuse to bash iphones. look at all the other features/apps it had that no other phone has ever touched.

i have a love/hate relationship with it~ but i must admit its really a step up from the shitty phones we had before.

[brgiant]

Is MMS really that big of a deal? I seriously never used it before I got my iPhone, and once AT&T enables it I'm sure I won't use it then.

If you really need to send a picture to somebody it has this amazing feature called email that can magically send pictures to people that don't even have cellphones. ZOMG!

[mgz]

With the iPhone, people actually have to work hard to find things to complain about.
It is funny because I work as an intern in the IT department of the company I'm working for, so I get to see things from a corporate perspective. The company currently deploys Blackberries to most of the employees, but recently many employees have been wanting iPhones, so we've finally decided to start supporting them. The biggest irony is our most outspoken anti-iPhone staff, after having an iPhone for about 48 hours, is now our most pro-iPhone.
Short of the people who hate AT&T (prices, coverage, dropped calls) or are just completely tech-retarded, I haven't met anyone who has wanted to not use an iPhone after a couple days of use. If you can get it, get it.

not really if you genuinely want the iphone as a phone there a dozens of phones that are without question leaps and bounds over the iphone in both sound quality signal quality speakerphone quality, talk time on battery life and stand by.

I being someone who doesnt care if my phone does 90 different things i have a motorolla Q global which has one of the best speakerphones ive ever used on a phone for clarity and volume

[Lupin]

Is MMS really that big of a deal? I seriously never used it before I got my iPhone, and once AT&T enables it I'm sure I won't use it then.

If you really need to send a picture to somebody it has this amazing feature called email that can magically send pictures to people that don't even have cellphones. ZOMG!

Here in my country yes. Text and MMS are a big deal here since most people use their phones for texting most of the time and not calling. People here don't pay tens of dollars just to send around 200 texts. They pay around 40 cents (US) for an all day unlimited texting service.

[halfelite]

I love my htc touch pro. With a cooked rom. It does everything I need and acts just the way I want it to. Battery life could be a little better. But cant complain to much. I looked at the iphone briefly and was turned off by the controls. And im used to a full slide out keyboard now. And at the time. They did not have office, copy past, or tethering Which I need.

To tell the truth Apple was smart. And most iphone users were kinda dumb. Not a direct attack on anyone. But the 3G 3.0 os and 3GS should have been the first phone to come out. You have had people buy 2 phones and some will probably by the 3GS also making it 3 phones in less then 3 years. talk about cash cow. When the 1st gen came out 3g had already been around, att already had 3g phones which all had mms and tethering. Now i understand that all the new customers would put a strain on there service. If I did my math right. They would have had to add 1,700 new cell towers just to support the new iphone users that were with other carries before cant really bitch and moan to much about that. but Still think the new one should have came out first and just limited its potential but still have it.

[mgz]

I love my htc touch pro. With a cooked rom. It does everything I need and acts just the way I want it to. Battery life could be a little better. But cant complain to much. I looked at the iphone briefly and was turned off by the controls. And im used to a full slide out keyboard now. And at the time. They did not have office, copy past, or tethering Which I need.

To tell the truth Apple was smart. And most iphone users were kinda dumb. Not a direct attack on anyone. But the 3G 3.0 os and 3GS should have been the first phone to come out. You have had people buy 2 phones and some will probably by the 3GS also making it 3 phones in less then 3 years. talk about cash cow. When the 1st gen came out 3g had already been around, att already had 3g phones which all had mms and tethering. Now i understand that all the new customers would put a strain on there service. If I did my math right. They would have had to add 1,700 new cell towers just to support the new iphone users that were with other carries before cant really bitch and moan to much about that. but Still think the new one should have came out first and just limited its potential but still have it.

you will never hear me slam apple from a business perspective they run their business incredibly well.
As a consumer i hate their bag of shit company. They build their products pre obsolete. When you buy an apple product your buying 1 or 2 fancy looking features and 98% old technology.

They also build nearly everything they have to lock you into what you have expansion or changing what you have is a no no unless you wish to pay apple to do it at a premium price. I will probably never buy an apple product for myself as the one apple product i purchased i was extremely dissatisfied with and returned promptly(literally the next day). It was an ipod.

[sdedalus83]

I really like the upcoming HTC touch pro2.  Wvga screen, hardware keyboard, and support for pretty much any frequency.  Unfortunately it's slow as shit.  Going with ARM11 now that everybody is using cortex a8 was retarded.

[iindigo]

you will never hear me slam apple from a business perspective they run their business incredibly well.
As a consumer i hate their bag of shit company. They build their products pre obsolete. When you buy an apple product your buying 1 or 2 fancy looking features and 98% old technology.

You're exaggerating again, and besides that, your average consumer doesn't need cutting-edge. In fact, those who DO buy cutting edge are a minority.

They also build nearly everything they have to lock you into what you have expansion or changing what you have is a no no unless you wish to pay apple to do it at a premium price. I will probably never buy an apple product for myself as the one apple product i purchased i was extremely dissatisfied with and returned promptly(literally the next day). It was an ipod.

This might hold some truth in the realms of the iPhone and iPods, but it's not true in for Macs at all. iMacs and Macbooks will take standard run-of-the-mill RAM and HDs. Mac Pro's will take about anything a generic PC tower will, with the exception of graphics cards (and even then, sometimes you can simply flash the ROM on a PC graphics card to make it work).

[mgz]

you will never hear me slam apple from a business perspective they run their business incredibly well.
As a consumer i hate their bag of shit company. They build their products pre obsolete. When you buy an apple product your buying 1 or 2 fancy looking features and 98% old technology.

You're exaggerating again, and besides that, your average consumer doesn't need cutting-edge. In fact, those who DO buy cutting edge are a minority.

They also build nearly everything they have to lock you into what you have expansion or changing what you have is a no no unless you wish to pay apple to do it at a premium price. I will probably never buy an apple product for myself as the one apple product i purchased i was extremely dissatisfied with and returned promptly(literally the next day). It was an ipod.

This might hold some truth in the realms of the iPhone and iPods, but it's not true in for Macs at all. iMacs and Macbooks will take standard run-of-the-mill RAM and HDs. Mac Pro's will take about anything a generic PC tower will, with the exception of graphics cards (and even then, sometimes you can simply flash the ROM on a PC graphics card to make it work).

and your standard video card ... o wait nvm.  Standard soundcards ... o wait nvm
And no its not an exageration. You can get what a nvidia gx120 on a 6000$ computer ?

upgrading nearly anything except HD or memory = buy a new mac

And saying that customers dont need cutting edge, you mean like 3g technology that was in about half of ATT phones in their lineup when the original iphone was released that makes many peoples signals go from crap to amazing.

The ability to make my own ringtones for my phone without the burden of downloading apps or jailbreaking my phone

[iindigo]

and your standard video card ... o wait nvm.  Standard soundcards ... o wait nvm
And no its not an exageration. You can get what a nvidia gx120 on a 6000$ computer ?

upgrading nearly anything except HD or memory = buy a new mac

On Mac Pro's you can plug in about any standard sound card, ram, HDs, or processors (provided they're the right socket). Graphics cards obviously not, but that's mostly due to the fact that Macs use EFI instead of the incredibly old BIOS. The main problem that you would run into with sound cards is that Apple abandoned vanilla PCI a couple years ago, so your selection is limited to PCI-Express cards.

And saying that customers dont need cutting edge, you mean like 3g technology that was in about half of ATT phones in their lineup when the original iphone was released that makes many peoples signals go from crap to amazing.

The ability to make my own ringtones for my phone without the burden of downloading apps or jailbreaking my phone

The way I see the feature delay on iPhones is this: Apple started with their desktop OS (OS X) and had to transform it into that of a phone. It's not too far off from writing an entirely new phone OS. They didn't have anything else to base it on. As a result, it took a while to reach feature parity with phones that had been in existence before.

I will admit that the ringtone bit is a kinda silly.

[mgz]

and your standard video card ... o wait nvm.  Standard soundcards ... o wait nvm
And no its not an exageration. You can get what a nvidia gx120 on a 6000$ computer ?

upgrading nearly anything except HD or memory = buy a new mac

On Mac Pro's you can plug in about any standard sound card, ram, HDs, or processors (provided they're the right socket). Graphics cards obviously not, but that's mostly due to the fact that Macs use EFI instead of the incredibly old BIOS. The main problem that you would run into with sound cards is that Apple abandoned vanilla PCI a couple years ago, so your selection is limited to PCI-Express cards.

And saying that customers dont need cutting edge, you mean like 3g technology that was in about half of ATT phones in their lineup when the original iphone was released that makes many peoples signals go from crap to amazing.

The ability to make my own ringtones for my phone without the burden of downloading apps or jailbreaking my phone

The way I see the feature delay on iPhones is this: Apple started with their desktop OS (OS X) and had to transform it into that of a phone. It's not too far off from writing an entirely new phone OS. They didn't have anything else to base it on. As a result, it took a while to reach feature parity with phones that had been in existence before.

I will admit that the ringtone bit is a kinda silly.

just because they opted to use their own OS on a phone doesnt mean it wasnt decided on their part to leave things like 3G out