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2009 Best Phone
sdedalus83:
I really like the upcoming HTC touch pro2. Wvga screen, hardware keyboard, and support for pretty much any frequency. Unfortunately it's slow as shit. Going with ARM11 now that everybody is using cortex a8 was retarded.
iindigo:
--- Quote from: mgz on July 06, 2009, 04:27:17 PM ---you will never hear me slam apple from a business perspective they run their business incredibly well.
As a consumer i hate their bag of shit company. They build their products pre obsolete. When you buy an apple product your buying 1 or 2 fancy looking features and 98% old technology.
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You're exaggerating again, and besides that, your average consumer doesn't need cutting-edge. In fact, those who DO buy cutting edge are a minority.
--- Quote from: mgz on July 06, 2009, 04:27:17 PM ---They also build nearly everything they have to lock you into what you have expansion or changing what you have is a no no unless you wish to pay apple to do it at a premium price. I will probably never buy an apple product for myself as the one apple product i purchased i was extremely dissatisfied with and returned promptly(literally the next day). It was an ipod.
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This might hold some truth in the realms of the iPhone and iPods, but it's not true in for Macs at all. iMacs and Macbooks will take standard run-of-the-mill RAM and HDs. Mac Pro's will take about anything a generic PC tower will, with the exception of graphics cards (and even then, sometimes you can simply flash the ROM on a PC graphics card to make it work).
mgz:
--- Quote from: iindigo on July 06, 2009, 04:52:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: mgz on July 06, 2009, 04:27:17 PM ---you will never hear me slam apple from a business perspective they run their business incredibly well.
As a consumer i hate their bag of shit company. They build their products pre obsolete. When you buy an apple product your buying 1 or 2 fancy looking features and 98% old technology.
--- End quote ---
You're exaggerating again, and besides that, your average consumer doesn't need cutting-edge. In fact, those who DO buy cutting edge are a minority.
--- Quote from: mgz on July 06, 2009, 04:27:17 PM ---They also build nearly everything they have to lock you into what you have expansion or changing what you have is a no no unless you wish to pay apple to do it at a premium price. I will probably never buy an apple product for myself as the one apple product i purchased i was extremely dissatisfied with and returned promptly(literally the next day). It was an ipod.
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This might hold some truth in the realms of the iPhone and iPods, but it's not true in for Macs at all. iMacs and Macbooks will take standard run-of-the-mill RAM and HDs. Mac Pro's will take about anything a generic PC tower will, with the exception of graphics cards (and even then, sometimes you can simply flash the ROM on a PC graphics card to make it work).
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and your standard video card ... o wait nvm. Standard soundcards ... o wait nvm
And no its not an exageration. You can get what a nvidia gx120 on a 6000$ computer ?
upgrading nearly anything except HD or memory = buy a new mac
And saying that customers dont need cutting edge, you mean like 3g technology that was in about half of ATT phones in their lineup when the original iphone was released that makes many peoples signals go from crap to amazing.
The ability to make my own ringtones for my phone without the burden of downloading apps or jailbreaking my phone
iindigo:
--- Quote from: mgz on July 06, 2009, 05:38:21 PM ---and your standard video card ... o wait nvm. Standard soundcards ... o wait nvm
And no its not an exageration. You can get what a nvidia gx120 on a 6000$ computer ?
upgrading nearly anything except HD or memory = buy a new mac
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On Mac Pro's you can plug in about any standard sound card, ram, HDs, or processors (provided they're the right socket). Graphics cards obviously not, but that's mostly due to the fact that Macs use EFI instead of the incredibly old BIOS. The main problem that you would run into with sound cards is that Apple abandoned vanilla PCI a couple years ago, so your selection is limited to PCI-Express cards.
--- Quote from: mgz on July 06, 2009, 05:38:21 PM ---And saying that customers dont need cutting edge, you mean like 3g technology that was in about half of ATT phones in their lineup when the original iphone was released that makes many peoples signals go from crap to amazing.
The ability to make my own ringtones for my phone without the burden of downloading apps or jailbreaking my phone
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The way I see the feature delay on iPhones is this: Apple started with their desktop OS (OS X) and had to transform it into that of a phone. It's not too far off from writing an entirely new phone OS. They didn't have anything else to base it on. As a result, it took a while to reach feature parity with phones that had been in existence before.
I will admit that the ringtone bit is a kinda silly.
mgz:
--- Quote from: iindigo on July 06, 2009, 05:50:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: mgz on July 06, 2009, 05:38:21 PM ---and your standard video card ... o wait nvm. Standard soundcards ... o wait nvm
And no its not an exageration. You can get what a nvidia gx120 on a 6000$ computer ?
upgrading nearly anything except HD or memory = buy a new mac
--- End quote ---
On Mac Pro's you can plug in about any standard sound card, ram, HDs, or processors (provided they're the right socket). Graphics cards obviously not, but that's mostly due to the fact that Macs use EFI instead of the incredibly old BIOS. The main problem that you would run into with sound cards is that Apple abandoned vanilla PCI a couple years ago, so your selection is limited to PCI-Express cards.
--- Quote from: mgz on July 06, 2009, 05:38:21 PM ---And saying that customers dont need cutting edge, you mean like 3g technology that was in about half of ATT phones in their lineup when the original iphone was released that makes many peoples signals go from crap to amazing.
The ability to make my own ringtones for my phone without the burden of downloading apps or jailbreaking my phone
--- End quote ---
The way I see the feature delay on iPhones is this: Apple started with their desktop OS (OS X) and had to transform it into that of a phone. It's not too far off from writing an entirely new phone OS. They didn't have anything else to base it on. As a result, it took a while to reach feature parity with phones that had been in existence before.
I will admit that the ringtone bit is a kinda silly.
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just because they opted to use their own OS on a phone doesnt mean it wasnt decided on their part to leave things like 3G out
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