Umineko no Naku Koro ni

[Nikran]

I have a theory that the little girl has been programmed/conditioned by the so-called bad guy and her "Uuuuuuuuuuuu" noises are designed to drive people crazy and distract them from discovering such tampering to her mind

[dbml]

This isn't the "next season" of Higurashi, unless I've missed a memo somewhere; it's based on different VN setting entirely. That said, the link should be obvious; even if you don't speak a single word of Japanese, Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni is fairly similar to Umineko no Naku Koro Ni.

Alternative Titles
English: When the Seagulls Cry
Synonyms: When They Cry 3, When the Seagulls Cry, When They Cry - Seagulls

I do know a little japanese... but I never knew the full name of Higurashi... I just knew it as that. Not that long-as-hell name it was given

I'm so pissed now. I never would've started watching this if I had known. Sorry, but watching the same event over and over with different viewpoints is stupid and repetitive as hell. The ONLY way it can work is if there's two viewpoints in total. One from the main guy... and one from the killer. That's it! Every other viewpoint is shit.

It's a shame that you feel that way, because that device was one of the strong points of Higurashi (especially seeing as the main intrigue was asinine and deeply disappointing).

I know it sounds like a great way to do a series, but repetitiveness is just something I can't stand. Even if it is altered slightly each time... that's not enough.


IF this series doesn't start repeating the events, there's still a decent chance I'll enjoy it. Nothing has really happened up to this point that I'd want to see repeated. Wow... people arguing, a girl whining and a total perv of a main character. Oh yes, I really want to watch that again I can't even say that I like any of the cute girls... which is a first. They're all cookie-cutter characters... nothing new at all.

[queenmetroid]

IF this series doesn't start repeating the events, there's still a decent chance I'll enjoy it. Nothing has really happened up to this point that I'd want to see repeated. Wow... people arguing, a girl whining and a total perv of a main character. Oh yes, I really want to watch that again I can't even say that I like any of the cute girls... which is a first. They're all cookie-cutter characters... nothing new at all.

Because that's not like every other anime I've seen. Not at all.

This is about as cliché as it can get (I guess we're missing the landed English gentry, but really); the whole show is, so far, essentially a mire of old mystery devices, with a few nods to the occult. Even a fan of said mysteries would surely balk at this.

Again, see above comment. What DOESN'T follow a winning formula these days? I'm simply willing to give this anime a chance, mostly because I loved Higurashi.

I admire your strength of will, if not your obvious lack of sanity 

It's not something I'm complemented on very often, but thanks anyway.

[erious]

That had to do with me not realizing it was Higurashi. I was calling myself an idiot. It had nothing to do with anyone else's opinions about the series.

Guess I misunderstood you then, sorry about that.
Anyway, did you even see Higurashi? Because from what you're saying it seems like you didn't And it's not on your MAL.

[Path]

I know it sounds like a great way to do a series, but repetitiveness is just something I can't stand. Even if it is altered slightly each time... that's not enough.

Higurashi didn't really repeat events as such though; with the change in perspectives and choices, whole new scenarios unfolded. The things that didn't change were hints as to what was really going on behind the scenes, while the arcs provided in depth details about the cast; in an "uniform" timeline, this information could never have been presented; this approach actually has an advantage over traditional VN ports, since, by virtue of a single timeline, you lose a lot of information (see FSN for one of the better known examples).

[dbml]

That had to do with me not realizing it was Higurashi. I was calling myself an idiot. It had nothing to do with anyone else's opinions about the series.

Guess I misunderstood you then, sorry about that.
Anyway, did you even see Higurashi? Because from what you're saying it seems like you didn't And it's not on your MAL.

Heh, no problem.

I've seen some, but not all. I think I stopped after the second "restart" of the first season. The concept itself of repetition turned me off. It's no different than someone who has flashbacks to the same event. I get pissed after about the second time I see it.

IF this series doesn't start repeating the events, there's still a decent chance I'll enjoy it. Nothing has really happened up to this point that I'd want to see repeated. Wow... people arguing, a girl whining and a total perv of a main character. Oh yes, I really want to watch that again I can't even say that I like any of the cute girls... which is a first. They're all cookie-cutter characters... nothing new at all.

Because that's not like every other anime I've seen. Not at all.

What I meant was, if it doesn't repeat... there's still hope that the characters will gain some personality and will grow on me. That won't happen if I see them do the same damn things over and over.

[erious]

I've seen some, but not all. I think I stopped after the second "restart" of the first season. The concept itself of repetition turned me off. It's no different than someone who has flashbacks to the same event. I get pissed after about the second time I see it.

Okay, that's so much wrong with that that I don't even know where to start.

[Nikran]

if you don't like the repititions of Higurashi i'd suggest you never watch 2nd season of suzumiya haruhi cuz 'endless eight' is 1000x worse then what higurashi did =P

Edit: 2nd reset of higurashi is only ep 8. you didn't watch even half of it. Bit harsh to judge higurashi before you even understood the whole plot don't u think so? =P

[queenmetroid]

IF this series doesn't start repeating the events, there's still a decent chance I'll enjoy it. Nothing has really happened up to this point that I'd want to see repeated. Wow... people arguing, a girl whining and a total perv of a main character. Oh yes, I really want to watch that again I can't even say that I like any of the cute girls... which is a first. They're all cookie-cutter characters... nothing new at all.

Because that's not like every other anime I've seen. Not at all.

What I meant was, if it doesn't repeat... there's still hope that the characters will gain some personality and will grow on me. That won't happen if I see them do the same damn things over and over.

Well, my point was that in EVERY SINGLE anime I've seen, there's always certain things that pan out. Most of them tend to be character stereotypes (There's ALWAYS a perv guy and a clueless girl) and situations (There's ALWAYS a swimsuit/beach/pool episode). That's why I can afford to wait, and besides, I like the concept of people getting killed off.

[dbml]

I know it sounds like a great way to do a series, but repetitiveness is just something I can't stand. Even if it is altered slightly each time... that's not enough.

Higurashi didn't really repeat events as such though; with the change in perspectives and choices, whole new scenarios unfolded. The things that didn't change were hints as to what was really going on behind the scenes, while the arcs provided in depth details about the cast; in an "uniform" timeline, this information could never have been presented; this approach actually has an advantage over traditional VN ports, since, by virtue of a single timeline, you lose a lot of information (see FSN for one of the better known examples).

I'll concede that it's not "repetition", but it's the easiest way to describe what is happening. I was never a fan of those books that gave options as you went through it, whatever they're called. I'm the same with anime.

I'll make an analogy to Breath of Fire V. In that, you only had a certain number of "steps" (what I call it I guess) you could make before the counter reached 100... and then it was game over and you had to restart... but you keep your status and get all your equipment back when you start over again. And you can take a different path the next time. And you have to do it over and over and over until you're strong enough to beat it without having to restart. That is the most monotonous and boring concept I have ever dealt with. The anime falls to the same problem for me. I don't want to have to wade through all the resets to figure out what is going on. It starts to get really dull.

if you don't like the repititions of Higurashi i'd suggest you never watch 2nd season of suzumiya haruhi cuz 'endless eight' is 1000x worse then what higurashi did =P

Edit: 2nd reset of higurashi is only ep 8. you didn't watch even half of it. Bit harsh to judge higurashi before you even understood the whole plot don't u think so? =P

Watching it happen twice was more than enough for me to realize it wasn't working for me. And if Haruhi does the same thing, I'll be skipping that block of episodes

Well, my point was that in EVERY SINGLE anime I've seen, there's always certain things that pan out. Most of them tend to be character stereotypes (There's ALWAYS a perv guy and a clueless girl) and situations (There's ALWAYS a swimsuit/beach/pool episode). That's why I can afford to wait, and besides, I like the concept of people getting killed off.

That's a load of bull. You must only watch a very select genre of anime if you always see those things. I sure don't. As for people getting killed off, I like that concept too... when someone dies once. Not when they get resurrected again and again just to get killed off in a different horrifying manner. I call that boring.

[Nikran]

I know it sounds like a great way to do a series, but repetitiveness is just something I can't stand. Even if it is altered slightly each time... that's not enough.

Higurashi didn't really repeat events as such though; with the change in perspectives and choices, whole new scenarios unfolded. The things that didn't change were hints as to what was really going on behind the scenes, while the arcs provided in depth details about the cast; in an "uniform" timeline, this information could never have been presented; this approach actually has an advantage over traditional VN ports, since, by virtue of a single timeline, you lose a lot of information (see FSN for one of the better known examples).

I'll concede that it's not "repetition", but it's the easiest way to describe what is happening. I was never a fan of those books that gave options as you went through it, whatever they're called. I'm the same with anime.

I'll make an analogy to Breath of Fire V. In that, you only had a certain number of "steps" (what I call it I guess) you could make before the counter reached 100... and then it was game over and you had to restart... but you keep your status and get all your equipment back when you start over again. And you can take a different path the next time. And you have to do it over and over and over until you're strong enough to beat it without having to restart. That is the most monotonous and boring concept I have ever dealt with. The anime falls to the same problem for me. I don't want to have to wade through all the resets to figure out what is going on. It starts to get really dull.

You don't know how to play Breath of Fire V do u? =P From the way i see it Higurashi was about telling smaller stories that were each intresting and at the same time giving out bits of clues and information that you could use to try to fit into the bigger picture and work out the mystery behind it. And like i said, u saw up to ep 8 which ain't even half way through the series. You'll never comprehend how godly Rika is

[Path]

Watching it happen twice was more than enough for me to realize it wasn't working for me. And if Haruhi does the same thing, I'll be skipping that block of episodes

I just wonder if we watched the same thing; the first three arcs of Higurashi were pure brilliance, and if the rest of the show had held that class, it'd quite likely have been one of my favourite shows; exposition, pacing and little details were great. Hell, the first and second arcs have almost nothing in common, so I'm unsure of what this horrible repetition you can't stand stems from. If only the second season hadn't been such an disappointment...

[queenmetroid]

That's a load of bull. You must only watch a very select genre of anime if you always see those things. I sure don't. As for people getting killed off, I like that concept too... when someone dies once. Not when they get resurrected again and again just to get killed off in a different horrifying manner. I call that boring.

...Well, whatever, I disagree. That's off-topic anyway.

I just wonder if we watched the same thing; the first three arcs of Higurashi were pure brilliance, and if the rest of the show had held that class, it'd quite likely have been one of my favourite shows; exposition, pacing and little details were great. Hell, the first and second arcs have almost nothing in common, so I'm unsure of what this horrible repetition you can't stand stems from. If only the second season hadn't been such an disappointment...

I didn't think the second season was so bad. At least it finally explained what was going on.

[dbml]

Watching it happen twice was more than enough for me to realize it wasn't working for me. And if Haruhi does the same thing, I'll be skipping that block of episodes

I just wonder if we watched the same thing; the first three arcs of Higurashi were pure brilliance, and if the rest of the show had held that class, it'd quite likely have been one of my favourite shows; exposition, pacing and little details were great. Hell, the first and second arcs have almost nothing in common, so I'm unsure of what this horrible repetition you can't stand stems from. If only the second season hadn't been such an disappointment...

Ok, Groundhog's Day. Live the same day over and over again until you get everything right. Lots of things could be different, but it's still the same damn day! That's how the anime goes. Wooo, new stuff happens. Characters get killed... again. Yay, now let's do it again in another interesting way! Sorry, not for me. Maybe I'll finish the first series one day, if I ever feel like torturing myself like Maria's voice in this one does.

[Temuthril]

Should best out of 3/5/whatever -matches be stopped in sports? They're just replaying the same match anyway.

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[psyren]

The acting and situations are horrendous.
Ugh... hopefully the story will redeem it... somewhat.

[Havoc10K]

ok, l havents started watching this, l'm not even DLin it yet, l might consider it if you explain one thing to me:

What is this Anime realtion to Higurashi ? is this about some more distant future events going on or what ?

or is that just made that same way like Higurashi with no real relevance ?

For instance  l liked Higurashi cuz the first season was questions, and the second was answers and salvation. while third is Finale (only a few eps)

if this Anime is story wise like in Higurashi l might consider watching it so please explain a bit of detals to me, use spoilers, l usually read them anyways.

[wolkec]

well ep2 seems fine. Compared to Higurashi its not that good
Anyhow what got me off track was when they said the witch is one of them. Why? How did they get to that conclusion, if "she" realy made that gold appear, why must it be a human anyhow? it could be a spectre, a ghost and they get a stupid idea its one of em...
Anyhow, after that its quite obvious its the girl who calls herself "furniture", the one with black emo hair

[newy]

If I'm not wrong the one calling itself "furniture" is a guy

[Havoc10K]

l see this is about a haunted Ikea store ? that goes bankrupt ?

someone can answer my earlier question ? or am I totally ignored ?