Author Topic: Bakemonogatari (Read 146413 times)

quekmeister · « **on:** July 06, 2009, 05:50:50 PM »

So, another season, another SHAFT series (2 actually) headed by Akiyuki Shinbo. What do you think? Whose subs will you be following? (see http://www.fansubwiki.com/)

From what I saw in the promo vid, it looks pretty interesting, though according to the fansubs doing it, it'll be fairly typical of SHAFT-Shinbo works (i.e. text all over the place, unusual camera angles and so on). Coming off Natsu no Arashi (which was GREAT), this should be a welcome replacement.

Steve Basnof · « **Reply #1 on:** July 06, 2009, 07:03:13 PM »

So why is this a "Shaft" series? Are you referencing to the man who don't take no shit from any man?

How is it like Shaft? When I went to the official page all I saw was a full screen loli-upskirt-cameltoe. Is that what Shaft was all about?

Loli-upskirt-Shaft? Apparently there are rotating cover pics so sorry to all you lolis if you don't get your upskirt fix when you load it.

erious · « **Reply #2 on:** July 06, 2009, 07:38:02 PM »

Quote from: Steve Basnof on July 06, 2009, 07:03:13 PM

So why is this a "Shaft" series? Are you referencing to the man who don't take no shit from any man?

How is it like Shaft? When I went to the official page all I saw was a full screen loli-upskirt-cameltoe. Is that what Shaft was all about?

Loli-upskirt-Shaft? Apparently there are rotating cover pics so sorry to all you lolis if you don't get your upskirt fix when you load it.

You better be trolling...
Please don't tell me you're really confusing movie Shaft with studio Shaft
Back on topic: It's pretty obvious that all of Shinbo's work will share his trademark moves, but it's not like it's a bad thing. I have pretty big hopes for Bakemonogatari, especially after just finishing Nanoha. If he can keep his trademark "humor" to minimum, and actually deliver a serious story, I'll be delighted. I heard that this show actually has decent budget, so we should have less cutting corners in animation then usual.
As for subs, dunno. I'll get the ones that'll come out first to get my fix, then see what are the alternatives.

dcudney · « **Reply #3 on:** July 06, 2009, 08:17:21 PM »

Frostii will be working on this one, i will probably follow their releases

Steve Basnof · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2009, 01:18:02 AM »

Sorry :/ I wasn't trolling. I'm not knowledgable about production companies. One-Bad-Motha'Fucker-Shaft is the only one I knew. Now some posts on some other sites make a lot more sense

Also I think I'll be following Frostii's subs if I like the show. I'm already following a lot of their other stuff and they always do high quality work.

quekmeister · « **Reply #5 on:** July 07, 2009, 01:28:53 AM »

Quote from: Steve Basnof on July 07, 2009, 01:18:02 AM

Sorry :/ I wasn't trolling. I'm not knowledgable about production companies. One-Bad-Motha'Fucker-Shaft is the only one I knew. Now some posts on some other sites make a lot more sense

Also I think I'll be following Frostii's subs if I like the show. I'm already following a lot of their other stuff and they always do high quality work.

No worries, it made me laugh.

mgz · « **Reply #6 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:31:57 PM »

Quote from: erious on July 06, 2009, 07:38:02 PM

Quote from: Steve Basnof on July 06, 2009, 07:03:13 PM
So why is this a "Shaft" series? Are you referencing to the man who don't take no shit from any man?

How is it like Shaft? When I went to the official page all I saw was a full screen loli-upskirt-cameltoe. Is that what Shaft was all about?

Loli-upskirt-Shaft? Apparently there are rotating cover pics so sorry to all you lolis if you don't get your upskirt fix when you load it.
You better be trolling...
Please don't tell me you're really confusing movie Shaft with studio Shaft
Back on topic: It's pretty obvious that all of Shinbo's work will share his trademark moves, but it's not like it's a bad thing. I have pretty big hopes for Bakemonogatari, especially after just finishing Nanoha. If he can keep his trademark "humor" to minimum, and actually deliver a serious story, I'll be delighted. I heard that this show actually has decent budget, so we should have less cutting corners in animation then usual.
As for subs, dunno. I'll get the ones that'll come out first to get my fix, then see what are the alternatives.

wasnt it a tv show in the 70s before a bad movie with SLJ

newy · « **Reply #7 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:47:02 PM »

Quote from: mgz on July 07, 2009, 02:31:57 PM

wasnt it a tv show in the 70s before a bad movie with SLJ

Yep, the mentor or whatever he is to SLJ in the movie was the shaft in the series, iirc.

BTT: I think I'll grab Frostii.

erious · « **Reply #8 on:** July 07, 2009, 03:38:06 PM »

Quote from: newy on July 07, 2009, 02:47:02 PM

Quote from: mgz on July 07, 2009, 02:31:57 PM
wasnt it a tv show in the 70s before a bad movie with SLJ

Yep, the mentor or whatever he is to SLJ in the movie was the shaft in the series, iirc.

BTT: I think I'll grab Frostii.

Get your facts straight, the 1971 movie was the original Shaft, followed by

Quote from: wikipedia

Two sequels were made: Shaft's Big Score in 1972, and Shaft in Africa in 1973. These were followed by a series of TV movies starring Roundtree as Shaft on CBS during the 1973-1974 TV season.
In 2000, a sequel was made featuring Samuel L. Jackson in the title role. Jackson plays the nephew of Richard Roundtree's character; Roundtree returns as John Shaft, still a private eye, trying to get his nephew to join him.

Also about the TV movies/TV show/whatever:

Quote from: http://www.tvparty.com

'Shaft' the TV series premiered in October of 1973 as part of CBS's 'New Tuesday Night Movies' - a rotating 'wheel' consisting of 'Shaft', 'Hawkins' and the 'Tuesday Night Movie'. The show ran from 9:30-11:00 with Richard Roundtree reprising his role as New York detective John Shaft.
To make the character 'fit' for broadcast, Shaft needed to be toned down. Now he would be working with the man instead of against him. Whenever Shaft was in a jam, he could call on Lt. Al Rossi (Ed Barth) of the police department and he would provide Shaft with the back-up he needed to solve the more complex crimes he was now faced with.
Cries rang up from 'Shaft' fans that Richard Roundtree had sold out, that this new mellow-er Shaft was no Shaft at all. Because of this, the series never found a substantial following and was canceled when the season ended on September 3, 1974.

Someone better release the subs ASAP, since we are getting completely off topic

dbml · « **Reply #9 on:** July 07, 2009, 06:11:39 PM »

Just watched the raw of episode 1. Despite not knowing what the hell was going on, it looks interesting. And yes, massive amounts of random text everywhere! The OP was rather misleading though. It was the bloodiest opening I'd seen since... I dunno. Yet the first episode was pretty much devoid of action (and therefore bloodshed) $:-\$ I'll probably give it a chance when it's fully released... don't think I could handle watching this once a week. Way too slow.

erious · « **Reply #10 on:** July 07, 2009, 06:43:23 PM »

Quote from: dbml on July 07, 2009, 06:11:39 PM

yes, massive amounts of random text everywhere!

Not so random. At least in the beginning, when the onscreen text tells the whole prequel story of what happened to the protagonist prior to the events of the anime, with becoming a vampire for a bit and then human again and whatnot.
Also, if someone is wondering if there's really that much text, frostii has "4-5" typesetters working on Bakemonogatari.

dbml · « **Reply #11 on:** July 07, 2009, 06:47:28 PM »

Quote from: erious on July 07, 2009, 06:43:23 PM

Quote from: dbml on July 07, 2009, 06:11:39 PM
yes, massive amounts of random text everywhere!
Not so random. At least in the beginning, when the onscreen text tells the whole prequel story of what happened to the protagonist prior to the events of the anime, with becoming a vampire for a bit and then human again and whatnot.

It did sort of resemble a timeline now that you mention it, but I couldn't get anything from it. So it was still random to me without having subs

erious · « **Reply #12 on:** July 11, 2009, 12:39:33 PM »

II-subs with qq released their subs. Took them long enough, but they're excused. Downloading it now, and so should you. Unless, of course you want to wait for frostii, but it'll probably take them next 3 weeks to release.
Also, there's a anon version floating around, but I would stay away from that.
EDIT:
...I don't really know what to say, go watch it. It's pretty awesome, unless you dislike SHAFT's signature style.

Path · « **Reply #13 on:** July 11, 2009, 01:29:47 PM »

Quote from: erious on July 11, 2009, 12:39:33 PM

Downloading it now, and so should you.

QFT. The presentation probably won't surprise anyone (SHAFT and Shinbo), but it works great here. I'm very pleased with the art, with the exception of the CGI (which'll hopefully be kept to a minimum). The actual plot will need time to develop, but so far things look promising, with an intriguing cast and (more importantly) dialogue that works. It's brisk without being forced, with a flow that allows for the humour to shine through without becoming too cliché or corny. Pending the next episode, I may be forced to reassess my rankings for this season....

newy · « **Reply #14 on:** July 11, 2009, 02:25:03 PM »

Images: TOP! Image composition (Does such a term exist?): TOP! Animation: TOP! Characters: Interesting! Plot: Sounds promising! Dialogues: Cool!

Additionals: Opening scene is win

Bakemonogatori and CANAAN are my tops this season!

quekmeister · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2009, 02:59:23 AM »

In terms of sheer spectacle, I believe Shinbo has reached a new high with this artistic direction. Also, stationary arsenal? Heck yeah.

erious · « **Reply #16 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:12:57 PM »

lol wut.
Color me confused, since gg released ep 2. Downloading now.

Quote from: newy on July 11, 2009, 02:25:03 PM

Additionals: Opening scene is win

Epic panty shot is epic.

Path · « **Reply #17 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:31:25 PM »

I'm in love with this. There are a few cheesy moments in the dialogue, and there are perhaps a touch too many shifts, but damn me if it isn't awesome. Senjōgahara is tsundere, and being able to bask in that without the accompanying moeblobs makes me sad that the episodes aren't longer. On an unrelated note, I'll never look at a stapler the same way...

morrefule · « **Reply #18 on:** July 13, 2009, 03:42:34 PM »

This is getting anerving for me. I'm waiting on Frostii.... Maybe I shouldn't be lol.

newy · « **Reply #19 on:** July 13, 2009, 04:02:03 PM »

Quote from: erious on July 13, 2009, 03:12:57 PM

lol wut.
Color me confused, since gg released ep 2. Downloading now.

I believe they'll release episode 1 before their umineko 3 release.