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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #60 on: July 26, 2009, 07:30:12 AM »
and whats with that commercial at the middle of the series? (on gg's release)

it looks QUITE AMAZING! and interesting. . .

Kara no Kyoukai VII.

Araragi is going to grow up to become quite the pedo.  :P

He's already practicing bribing grade school girls and knocking them unconscious.

He's doing a class job, too. In years to come his existence will come to be feared among children and parents alike, one'd think. On the other hand, Hitagi's rejection of children in general goes well with her personality; even more so since she's evidently fully aware of the cause. I'm siding with Oshino on this one - tsundere-chan, kowai desu~ Given the battering Araragi has sustained lately, he appears to appreciate having someone more evenly balanced in a battle of wits around, even if that means giving in to less admirable traits.

I also loved the OP. It was so... unexpected. Out of place, yet perfect. Still waiting for Hitagi to dragoon Araragi into a relationship though; given the evident lack of the bashful nature generally harboured by tsundere, I can't imagine her sitting on the fence indefinitely on this.

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #61 on: July 27, 2009, 04:43:18 AM »
I got bored of waiting for my other weekly anime series (Umineko, Umi monogatari, and Tokyo Magnitude), so I grabbed all the current episodes of Canaan and Bakemonogatari. I had no idea what it was, who it was made by, the storyline, or anything about it. After the first episode I am bored, confused, and disappointed. There isn't a single element of this story that is believable. The dialogue had me wandering off into daydreams because it was boring me. The constant text was completely missed because I didn't want to pause the show every time a half-second wall of text appeared (honestly...can the Japanese even read fast enough to catch this?). I see wikipedia has it in the 'comedy' category where anidb doesn't. I think I have to agree with anidb. There wasn't anything funny, compelling, interesting, or exciting about this show. The girl with all the sharp school utensils is annoying and unbelievable as the character she was designed to be. The only thing I enjoyed was the artwork and that interesting pantsu shot right at the beginning. I'll keep watching until episode 3 in hopes it will get better, but if it keeps like this then I'm not wasting my time. I sure hope Canaan turns out better.  
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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #62 on: July 27, 2009, 05:50:49 AM »
I got bored of waiting for my other weekly anime series (Umineko, Umi monogatari, and Tokyo Magnitude), so I grabbed all the current episodes of Canaan and Bakemonogatari. I had no idea what it was, who it was made by, the storyline, or anything about it. After the first episode I am bored, confused, and disappointed. There isn't a single element of this story that is believable. The dialogue had me wandering off into daydreams because it was boring me. The constant text was completely missed because I didn't want to pause the show every time a half-second wall of text appeared (honestly...can the Japanese even read fast enough to catch this?). I see wikipedia has it in the 'comedy' category where anidb doesn't. I think I have to agree with anidb. There wasn't anything funny, compelling, interesting, or exciting about this show. The girl with all the sharp school utensils is annoying and unbelievable as the character she was designed to be The only thing I enjoyed was the artwork and that interesting pantsu shot right at the beginning. I'll keep watching until episode 3 in hopes it will get better, but if it keeps like this then I'm not wasting my time. I sure hope Canaan turns out better. 

mmm didnt happen to me. . .
since the first episode i liked the animation style (it caught my attention) . . .and well the pausing thing,. . .well i did when the scenes were like 2 secs. . .but those .001 secs frames i wont be so specific to read them. . .but its really interesting. . .i loved episode 3. . .awesome stuff

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #63 on: July 27, 2009, 10:30:59 AM »
I've never watched a show in this style, I don't know if it's common, but I find it absolutely brilliant. The content of the episodes progressively improved through episode 3, but ep 4 was still great, and it gives me yet another great show to look forward to every week.

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #64 on: July 27, 2009, 04:52:14 PM »
. There isn't a single element of this story that is believable*. The dialogue had me wandering off into daydreams because it was boring me. The constant text was completely missed because I didn't want to pause the show every time a half-second wall of text appeared (honestly...can the Japanese even read fast enough to catch this?).**

* just how many Anime you belive is Belivable ? l know what you mean but you could leave that comment out.
**reminds me of some GITS comment, listening to Japanese dub and following the on-screen text is easy, it's how l learned Japanese (spoken) to the current degree, so l can easily tell when there is a mistake in TL.

remember japanese don't need subs :]

l'll take a look at this anime later on, if l will be able to free up some space (wich is dubius ;] at least for the time being :} )

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #65 on: July 27, 2009, 09:20:05 PM »
. There isn't a single element of this story that is believable*. The dialogue had me wandering off into daydreams because it was boring me. The constant text was completely missed because I didn't want to pause the show every time a half-second wall of text appeared (honestly...can the Japanese even read fast enough to catch this?).**

* just how many Anime you belive is Belivable ? l know what you mean but you could leave that comment out.
**reminds me of some GITS comment, listening to Japanese dub and following the on-screen text is easy, it's how l learned Japanese (spoken) to the current degree, so l can easily tell when there is a mistake in TL.

remember japanese don't need subs :]

l'll take a look at this anime later on, if l will be able to free up some space (wich is dubius ;] at least for the time being :} )
Don't say anything about the text until you have seen the first episode. You will know what I mean. Tons of text that appear so fast that your eyes barely even recognize it as text before it is gone.

As far as being believable, there is a certain degree of believability to most anime. The idea is that they have to be able to sell you their make-believe world and make it seem real in order for the storyline to have a greater impact. If Vampires exist in the world then they should be explained, if people are immortal there should be reasoning behind this, etc. etc.... This story explains nothing. It really reminds me of 'Kill Bill' in a way, where there is no explanation or story (at least not one the audience needs to care about), everything just IS.

Mind you, these observations are based on 1 episode so they are far from accurate, and they are nothing more than speculation. I'll watch some more tomorrow, but I have been driving across state for the past 6 hours and I need sleep :D

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #66 on: July 28, 2009, 06:05:34 AM »
what you percive as "Belivable" looks to me you are willing to read and recive the meaning of the told story, wether it hits you or not is a different matter, for instance, you sympathize with a character and situation is because the story was built the way it made contact with you and you sympathize with it, in other words you belive in it to a certain degree, it's like reading an intresting book, l'm currently watching Xenosaga and since l played the game (wich l suddenly want to play again) the anime keeps me constantly in suspense because it was intresting, tough l don't understand why Shion in anime looks so much different fromShion in game :]

l'll check this anime when l free up some HDD space anyways.

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #67 on: July 29, 2009, 12:12:19 AM »
Aneroph - sorry, no offence, but your objections sound like nonsense to me.
Should be explained? What the hell? If a story needs expospeak in order to establish the world, then most likely it isn't a good story. Seriously, there's absolutely no need to explain the premise prior to the story, which is what you seem to expect(since you've seen only the first ep).
I honestly can't say anything if you're bored by the dialogue and find Senjougahara annoying though - I just didn't think anyone would.
Now, the flashing text is a different matter - but if you don't want to pause to read it, just treat it as a visual effect, because most people watching this on TV won't be able to read it anyway, and it isn't necessary to enjoy the show. 

On to other matters, Frostii released first ep. After a month. Good job, I guess.

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #68 on: July 29, 2009, 12:56:05 AM »
Aneroph - sorry, no offence, but your objections sound like nonsense to me.
Should be explained? What the hell? If a story needs expospeak in order to establish the world, then most likely it isn't a good story. Seriously, there's absolutely no need to explain the premise prior to the story, which is what you seem to expect(since you've seen only the first ep).
I honestly can't say anything if you're bored by the dialogue and find Senjougahara annoying though - I just didn't think anyone would.
Now, the flashing text is a different matter - but if you don't want to pause to read it, just treat it as a visual effect, because most people watching this on TV won't be able to read it anyway, and it isn't necessary to enjoy the show. 

On to other matters, Frostii released first ep. After a month. Good job, I guess.

I won't say anything else until I have seen more of the episodes (4 eps is the lucky number before I'll drop a series anyways), but when I said things weren't 'explained' enough, it was only partly what I meant. There are plenty of other series and games where things are never explained until further into the main story, but my comparison with the movie 'Kill Bill' still feels pretty accurate after 2 episodes.

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #69 on: July 30, 2009, 02:43:22 PM »
Bakemonogatari <-- probably the one I am going to watch. I'll avoid everything else, but well .. my "other" feelings came back ... you know, the one that tell me not to watch it until it is over. Hmph. Need to make a decision.

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #70 on: July 30, 2009, 03:55:57 PM »
This show got a lot better during the second half of ep 2. Senjougahara was really annoying, like a know-it-all, that felt sort of monotone and emotionless in the first ep. After a bit of action she actually started becoming a character that was decent to watch. Unfortunately, I have been busy/tired for the past few days so I haven't been able to go on to eps 3 and 4, but I have some renewed hope for the series.

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #71 on: July 31, 2009, 02:37:23 AM »
Senjougahara was really annoying, like a know-it-all, that felt sort of monotone and emotionless in the first ep.
Wasn't that the point of the character though? I kind of enjoyed watching her assholery. (I don't really like any of the characters in this anime that much but for some reason I'm enjoying it...)
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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #72 on: August 02, 2009, 07:27:04 AM »
new episode out. . .
loved it!
LOVED IT!
this thing is going to my top 5 once its finished I guess

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #73 on: August 02, 2009, 08:58:06 AM »
FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UU~!!! Ep.5 already?! Heck, if I'm willing to wait for qIIq or Frostii, I might as well just wait for the DVDs/BDs. T_T
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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #74 on: August 02, 2009, 09:08:04 AM »
I enjoyed her assholery in the first episode, but the more episode I watch the less I like them. She just isn't as awesome as she were in the first episode, and that boy. Not very interesting at all.

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2009, 09:26:02 AM »
I've just watched the trailer, and the first thing I can say about the main character is,

Her breasts look delicious. 0_0

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #76 on: August 02, 2009, 11:54:17 AM »
Interesting conclusion in episode 5 but I must agree, Senjougahara has become a lot more tame.
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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #77 on: August 02, 2009, 12:24:56 PM »
Interesting conclusion in episode 5 but I must agree, Senjougahara has become a lot more tame.
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I wonder if they'll be pulling a Toradora! with a second season, scheduling the anime to correspond with the impending release of new entries in the novel series.  I thought that approach was much more satisfying than the typical attempt to either manufacture a conclusion from existing material, or to create an entirely new storyline beyond the progress of the incomplete source material.

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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2009, 01:52:22 PM »
Interesting conclusion in episode 5 but I must agree, Senjougahara has become a lot more tame.
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Re: Bakemonogatari
« Reply #79 on: August 02, 2009, 03:25:58 PM »
So, after episode 5... As far as I can tell, this is one of the best anime I've ever seen. Yes, best. First four episodes were great, fifth took it to a whole new level.
I don't really think Senjougahara changed that much though - she never actually fit into either definition of tsundere, and what's happening is steady, proper character development. I love it. And it's not like she's become meek or anything.