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Crazy economic growth of China
mgz:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on July 14, 2009, 10:10:36 AM ---
--- Quote from: darkjedi on July 13, 2009, 10:07:56 PM ---Call me nationalistic if you want, but I don't think it's a shameful thing to be proud of one's country's achievements, especially when they are good. ;)
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Nationalism is not a bad thing, but labelling it as superpower even in economical aspect just makes you look ignorantly biased.
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hey someone else picked it up lol
darkjedi:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on July 14, 2009, 10:10:36 AM ---Nationalism is not a bad thing, but labelling it as superpower even in economical aspect just makes you look ignorantly biased.
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That's basically the trademark quality of hard-line nationalists. They sometimes purposefully choose to forgo their countries' shortcomings in lieu of better achievements. (to satisfy their ego, obviously) Those patterns of thought are where the irrational behavior of most nationalists are coming from. It's like selective morality. When they are in their own countries they'll whine about the current state of politics/economy/affairs/anything else and how difficult things are for them and scream 'ALLAH AKBAR!' in their own president's face but when they meet foreigners they brag about how badass their countries are. You won't see Japanese or Americans or Europeans doing that a lot, but people from some other developed countries where just a decade before was a third-world country, they do. (Mexico, Brazil, China, South Korea) Some from third-world countries, even. (Iran?)
Try playing in Mexican or Brazilian servers for a while in UT3 or some other game. It doesn't happen that often, but it might in your lifetime. It usually starts with some random American dude coming in and owning everyone. Then they rage and, there it goes. I don't know how American dudes owning can lead to a 'political debate', but lol, you can't disconnect irrationalism from nationalism, ever.
fohfoh:
--- Quote from: sdedalus83 on July 13, 2009, 08:00:44 PM ---Taiwan? China's got a hell of a long way to go before its cost of labor is even close to Taiwan's.
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Agreed. But the gap of the quality of the two (mainly due to the quality of the factories and not labour) is a big issue as well.
However. If China "gets too big" and too rich, all of a sudden we'll realize some type of weird capitalism in China... or would it be Oligarchy? Imagine also the labour they can easily get from other countries. (As Hong Kong already does)
darkjedi:
--- Quote from: fohfoh on July 15, 2009, 06:58:40 AM ---or would it be Oligarchy?
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China = Sparta? No way.
fohfoh:
--- Quote from: darkjedi on July 15, 2009, 07:55:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: fohfoh on July 15, 2009, 06:58:40 AM ---or would it be Oligarchy?
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China = Sparta? No way.
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In any case, we've seen that China already shows characteristics of Capitalism and the fruits of capitalism. However, we've also seen USA take many steps in the direction of Socialism.
The future will be hard to determine.
I'm not sure about the trade relations regarding Canada and China, but it does seem that Canada seems to be in ok shape during this recession. Canada and China may walk out of this stronger. I'm not sure if the USA will be stronger after this recession, but at the very least they'll be back to what they were before.
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