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Intel kicking AMD to the curb?
kyanwan:
Overclocking halves the life of your hardware.
So, double the price of the intel. Your argument is moot.
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But even further - if you have hardware, that there is no application in existence that can really give it a challenge ... why in the hell would you want to overclock? Why would you need to? ( other than e-peen & bragging rights. )
bloody000:
--- Quote from: kyanwan on July 20, 2009, 07:27:38 PM ---Overclocking halves the life of your hardware.
So, double the price of the intel. Your argument is moot.
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But even further - if you have hardware, that there is no application in existence that can really give it a challenge ... why in the hell would you want to overclock? Why would you need to? ( other than e-peen & bragging rights. )
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The expert has spoken. ::)
relic2279:
--- Quote ---Overclocking halves the life of your hardware.
So, double the price of the intel.
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Overclocking does NOT halve the lifespan of your processor. It does shorten it, and to what extent is based on how much you overclock it. If you are running a stable processor with an overclock and temps are under control, you can easily get 4-5+ years.
What enthusiast that knows enough to overclock would hang onto an outdated processor for that long? Your point is moot.
I'd suggest heading over to overclock.net and reading up a bit on their forums for specifics. My e6400 has been OC'd to 3Ghz on air for over 2 years now without a single hiccup.
Arveene:
--- Quote ---Overclocking halves the life of your hardware.
So, double the price of the intel. Your argument is moot.
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But even further - if you have hardware, that there is no application in existence that can really give it a challenge ... why in the hell would you want to overclock? Why would you need to? ( other than e-peen & bragging rights. )
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Considering the i7 has only been out for half a year, I doubt there is ANY reliable evidence pointing to overclocking halfing the life of your hardware. Overclocking won't directly affect the lifetime hardware, it's HEAT. Increased temperature is usually a result of overclocking, but with the proper cooling and setup you'll be fine. Going overboard will shorten it's lifespan a ton, but if you know what you're doing you can get a good overclock without shortening the lifespan of your hardware.
I'm currently running a Core i7 920 with all the bells and whistles for my other hardware in my desktop. I haven't tried overclocking it much yet, just up to about 3.2 on air. I wouldn't suggest clocking much further without at least replacing the stock cooler if not liquid cooling.
My HTPC is currently running with an AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ stock speeds. Yeah, it's overboard but some anime encodes don't play well with DXVA. It can also double for a 2nd gaming PC if a friend visits or something. I'd have to toss in a video card because the IGP on the Gigabyte mobo probably won't be able to handle it.
Having run with both a Core i7 920 and this the Phenom II X4 955, I prefer the i7. It's just so easy to overclock it's not even funny. Especially with an EVGA x58 board. Grab the Core i7 Extreme Edition and it's even easier to OC.
kyanwan:
--- Quote from: relic2279 on July 20, 2009, 07:48:19 PM ---
--- Quote ---Overclocking halves the life of your hardware.
So, double the price of the intel.
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What enthusiast that knows enough to overclock would hang onto an outdated processor for that long? Your point is moot.
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Flipping a switch or changing your multiplier in BIOS isn't exactly computer science.
OK, so it doesn't "halve" the life of your equipment per-se. To get any BIG boosts, you will need to do an extreme overclock.
These "overclocks" that people do of, 5, 10%, 15%, even 20% - those are pointless. What's your performance bonus going to hit? Why bother?
25% or 30% instead of 20%? Is it worth it to put the extra strain on your hardware, to get an extra 5% or 10% out of it?
Put it this way - people who buy hardware, will buy the thing that's good, and cheap. Now, let's head on over to that valve hardware survey that's done all the time. ( hah ) what's the percentage of people who swap out their hardware every 6 months, year, whatever - like, 1-5%.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/processormfg/
( So out of all of us here, only 1 has this "good hardware" we're talking about. Even me -lol- I've got a few old Amd X2's. Why? Because I upgrade RAM & GPU based on my personal needs, not based on who I need to impress with screenshots so I can join their WoW lardasses fap club. )
This user - likes performance. The kind where I never get a BSOD, hiccup, failure, error. I compute failsafe (*or should I say, fail resistant.) Overclocking, is something not in my vocabulary. I leave that to fools. ( like the type of fool who considers an extra 5 FPS - and other things the human eye is incapable of seeing, or the mind is incapable of processing - a "sizable gain". )
( This would be the same person buying into 64-BIT HD ULTRA-LOSSLESS AUDIO when Creative decides to release it - and pay $500 for it on top of it all. Even though, your brain & ears can only handle up to 24-Bit quality. :) )
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So - when looking at Intel's low-ass offerings vs the thing they get you up the ass for - (i7 - the so-aptly-coined emergency edition, where they slapped on so much cache it HAS to be good) - what incentive do they have to lock the multiplier? Zero.
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But, what is pathetic here, is that such a piece of pure steaming shit like the Phenom can come so close in performance to Intel, while being 1/5 of the price. That's pathetic. That's shameful.
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