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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2009, 01:25:14 PM »
sudo rm -fr / > /dev/null 2>&1 &

Lemme know when you are able to run that under Winblows ;)

Why would you want to remove things recursively without any output information about it?

Isn't that basically the same as quick formatting a drive?
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2009, 01:31:31 PM »
Installed Windows 7 just now. I guess it's decent enough.
Though I prefer simpler and less flashy stuff.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2009, 05:11:54 PM »
Also, I refuse to put more than a gig stick in either of my primary computers
Why? Even with XP you'll see noticeable speed gains with more memory.

Agreed. I'm dying on my work comp with 1.5GB RAM and 5400rpm HDD...

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2009, 05:17:03 PM »
as much as i dont like Vista, i use it for 64 bit...am looking forward to windows 7

however, i still have XP installed and will keep it as a dual boot option alongside windows 7.

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2009, 05:22:51 PM »
Forget Vista altogether. W7 has been surpringly rock solid for me, even after the XP->vista->w7 upgrade route. I'm not one to advocate m$ usually, but w7 is worth trying more-so than vista *bleh

edit: and fast very very fast

^_^   

Hell yeah - they've put a good effort into 7.    It's the next 98/2K - it's going to be, the best shit they've released in a while.   + A good friend of mine WORKED on that shit!   It's killer!   It rules!

So, hell, I know the network portion of Win7 will be rock solid.   That guy, is good (*He's one of the few people I'd trust to do *my own* work.)

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2009, 05:25:41 PM »
I've used it a few hours now and have made some progress. I'm almost happy about it now ;)
No problem so far with anything that couldn't be fixed by myself, such as getting it to work with Popcorn Hour.

I'm surprised how well it works in fact.

A few days more and it'll be great.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2009, 06:20:04 PM »
sudo rm -fr / > /dev/null 2>&1 &

Lemme know when you are able to run that under Winblows ;)
What does that have to do with anything?
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2009, 07:10:27 PM »
sudo rm -fr / > /dev/null 2>&1 &

Lemme know when you are able to run that under Winblows ;)
What does that have to do with anything?
Shows how basic the Windows command line.
Overall, Windows just fails.

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2009, 07:25:28 PM »
if your in the market for a new computer then yes vista hands down but getting vista to replace your xp just isnt worth it. theres no real differences between xp and vista to justify paying all that cash for something that doesn't have that much improvement OS wise

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2009, 09:51:17 PM »
if your in the market for a new computer then yes vista hands down but getting vista to replace your xp just isnt worth it. theres no real differences between xp and vista to justify paying all that cash for something that doesn't have that much improvement OS wise

Which is why you pre-ordered Windows 7 at 50 bucks. Vista wasn't worth jack, but I'm paying for 7.

Forget Vista altogether. W7 has been surpringly rock solid for me, even after the XP->vista->w7 upgrade route. I'm not one to advocate m$ usually, but w7 is worth trying more-so than vista *bleh

edit: and fast very very fast

^_^   

Hell yeah - they've put a good effort into 7.    It's the next 98/2K - it's going to be, the best shit they've released in a while.   + A good friend of mine WORKED on that shit!   It's killer!   It rules!

So, hell, I know the network portion of Win7 will be rock solid.   That guy, is good (*He's one of the few people I'd trust to do *my own* work.)



Ironically, that's where most of my W7 problems are. Hopefully RTM fixed those.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2009, 10:39:36 PM »
sudo rm -fr / > /dev/null 2>&1 &

Lemme know when you are able to run that under Winblows ;)
What does that have to do with anything?
Shows how basic the Windows command line.
Overall, Windows just fails.

/resume your Windows debate and ignore the *nixfag over here. :3

I love the linux command line.  I live in it all day ... BUT ... I grew up on the dos prompt.

Let me poke holes in your argument.  

sudo is a program.   You can achieve stuff like what you did using certain commands, such as the all-powerful "net" command in windows command line.  

Any command line program can have an impressive amount of arguments.   This is almost like a "the echo command is so awesome!"

Dos, er, cmd.exe/command line also has piping.   Try these on for size:

dir /aa /w /od /s >output.txt

cd / | del /s /f /q *.* | echo "lmao!  oops."  ( Or if you like shell scripting - copy-paste that into notepad and put an "@echo off" line right smack above that line.  Save it as "doh.bat"    Hilarity will not ensue when you type "doh.bat" and hit enter.   Oh, btw - DOS batch scripting is *almost* like shell script.   Almost, but not even close. )

I'm sure you can also write a cool prog (or a script) that uses the net command - to log into a remote system as an administrator, mount a network share, copy files, unmount, then exit.  

At a time, the DOS command line was just as nice.   It's been neglected since 1995 - that is - windows 95, where it was reworked some ... then basically dumped.   Don't bash it.   Plus - there are very powerful tools on it ( see "net" for one.   It's *awesome* - one of the most overloaded & powerful apps in your entire windows install. ) you might want to look into them - if you like the linux command line that much.  

( BTW - I don't get the point of any info being added after piping to /dev/null ... I'd like to say that's redundant - but - I've never wiped a linux drive like that ... so I'm not positive.  :) )
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2009, 02:37:56 AM »
sudo rm -fr / > /dev/null 2>&1 &

Lemme know when you are able to run that under Winblows ;)
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #52 on: July 24, 2009, 10:29:04 AM »
Kyanwan, have you looked into Powershell 1.0? It's Microsoft's attempt to bring back command lines. (Basically trying for the stripped version of Windows sever 2008.) Currently though, powershell isn't available for the command version of server 2008. Not yet at least. It might be available in the later service packs.

Windows Server 2008 is a pretty cool OS. But god damn, 900 CAD?
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #53 on: July 24, 2009, 11:37:11 AM »
Kyanwan, have you looked into Powershell 1.0? It's Microsoft's attempt to bring back command lines. (Basically trying for the stripped version of Windows sever 2008.) Currently though, powershell isn't available for the command version of server 2008. Not yet at least. It might be available in the later service packs.

Windows Server 2008 is a pretty cool OS. But god damn, 900 CAD?

But pretty easy to fool the registry, if you know what I mean.  ;)
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #54 on: July 24, 2009, 02:29:11 PM »
I'm still using XP because it's what I got with the computer and didn't have to pay extra for it.
Else I'd use Linux.  Most of my machines are Linux machines anyway.

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #55 on: July 24, 2009, 03:45:25 PM »
Kyanwan, have you looked into Powershell 1.0? It's Microsoft's attempt to bring back command lines. (Basically trying for the stripped version of Windows sever 2008.) Currently though, powershell isn't available for the command version of server 2008. Not yet at least. It might be available in the later service packs.

Windows Server 2008 is a pretty cool OS. But god damn, 900 CAD?

But pretty easy to fool the registry, if you know what I mean.  ;)

I think that's the point.... which is why you don't get a retard controlling a server.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2009, 11:15:53 PM »
Kyanwan, have you looked into Powershell 1.0? It's Microsoft's attempt to bring back command lines. (Basically trying for the stripped version of Windows sever 2008.) Currently though, powershell isn't available for the command version of server 2008. Not yet at least. It might be available in the later service packs.

Windows Server 2008 is a pretty cool OS. But god damn, 900 CAD?
I've seen some of the stuff that powershell can do. It uses .NET libs and stuff which makes it quite powerful. However, that still isn't really native scripting is it? Or am I wrong?
It would make more sense to compare powershell to python/perl IMO

Where as comparing MS batch files to Shell scripts would make more sense in my mind. And I think we all know the winner there, unless there is some new super DOS on vista/server 2008/7 that I don't know about.

EDIT:
O yeah, ironpython can be used to do anything powershell does. So IMO, python would win when comparing those two. Though I cant really speak for perl.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2009, 12:58:17 AM »
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Windows Server 2008 includes a variation of installation called Server Core. Server Core is a significantly scaled-back installation where no Windows Explorer shell is installed. All configuration and maintenance is done entirely through command line interface windows, or by connecting to the machine remotely using Microsoft Management Console. However, Notepad and some control panel applets, such as Regional Settings, are available.
Server Core does not include the .NET Framework, Internet Explorer, Windows PowerShell or many other features not related to core server features. A Server Core machine can be configured for several basic roles: Domain controller/Active Directory Domain Services, ADLDS (ADAM), DNS Server, DHCP Server, file server, print server, Windows Media Server, IIS 7 web server and Hyper-V virtual server. Server Core can also be used to create a cluster with high availability using Failover Clustering or Network Load Balancing.
Andrew Mason, a program manager on the Windows Server team, noted that a primary motivation for producing a Server Core variant of Windows Server 2008 was to reduce the attack surface of the operating system, and that about 70% of the security vulnerabilities in Microsoft Windows from the prior five years would not have affected Server Core.[6]

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms723891(VS.85).aspx

Don't get this mixed up with powershell, AFAIK, powershell isn't available for server core.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2009, 02:39:55 AM »
I played with the betas of server 2008. It didn't work on it then... guess they never worked that out.

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2009, 03:20:11 AM »
I played with the betas of server 2008. It didn't work on it then... guess they never worked that out.

Because it was more fully implemented in the later service packs. Especially VR. It's actually at a much higher degree than it was at a few months ago. But I'm not technologically smart enough to figure out how to tinker with it.
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