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Offline kyanwan

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #60 on: July 25, 2009, 11:51:57 PM »
Kyanwan, have you looked into Powershell 1.0? It's Microsoft's attempt to bring back command lines. (Basically trying for the stripped version of Windows sever 2008.) Currently though, powershell isn't available for the command version of server 2008. Not yet at least. It might be available in the later service packs.

Windows Server 2008 is a pretty cool OS. But god damn, 900 CAD?

I haven't - I've basically lost most hope that Windows would ever have any command line features ... where, say, I could login SSH to a system and do 99.5% of the work I could do while sitting at the console ... while sitting at home.

MS isn't bringing back anything.  They're realizing that SSH is an administrative tool like no other.  Minimal bandwidth, powered, low resource, and fully standardized & cross-OS compatible.  Crap - I could even *FULLY* admin my server off my PocketPC (...and I HAVE! XD)

They're getting into the server game. 

Still, would be cool to have command line *really* revived with windows.   It's been so long ... T_T ...
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #61 on: July 26, 2009, 01:37:25 AM »
Their reasoning for powershell is that there's less of a face for hackers to attack and also, it uses less resources.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #62 on: July 30, 2009, 04:51:43 AM »
Also, I refuse to put more than a gig stick in either of my primary computers
Why? Even with XP you'll see noticeable speed gains with more memory.
I don't believe that an OS and the programs I run every day should use that much memory.  Right now, I can run a browser, editor and IM, as well as XP in a virtual machine, without going into swap space.  Adding more memory wouldn't help at all, since I'm not using up all that I have as it is.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #63 on: July 30, 2009, 05:02:49 AM »
I only have XP on my laptop and that's because it's fairly old and only has 512mb ram. Been thinking about installing linux in it but I barely use it since the battery is dead (like not chargeable kind of dead) and when I checked it was a bit over $100 to get the battery for it. Might as well just go get a new laptop for a few hundred more and be much better then this few year old piece.

My current desktop has Vista 64-bit and I like it a lot. As some of you have seen my pics in the desktop pic thread, you can see that I use quite a lot of resources with my OS and I have 4gb ram. Been thinking about puttig another 4gb of ram in it to run like a beast but I've also been thinking of installing linux since I would be able to do everything I like to do (cube desktop, cool custom theme icon bars and gadgets) and use very little resources. Only reason why I haven't installed linux yet is because I don't have any place to store the 800+ gb of stuff I have on my hard drive during reformat yet.

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #64 on: July 31, 2009, 06:57:31 AM »
Using XP until Windows 7 is released. So do the other smart people I know.

Basically everything I need works on my XP right now. I know that in the future I will need more RAM and when I buy a new graphic card, I will need DX10 support. But for now XP works and you know what they say: Don't fix what isn't broken.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #65 on: July 31, 2009, 10:55:04 AM »
Windows 7 Final RTM is out now which is pretty much the way it'll be when released.
I have been using it for a week now and it works like a charm. No problems that couldn't be fixed within minutes.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #66 on: July 31, 2009, 01:52:30 PM »
Many of you know my infamous reputation of hating anything begining with "MS". However, despite that I have to say that Win7 seems to have a lot of polish and sex appeal. I've seen lists of changes and various benchmarks. All in all, it's shaped up very nicely as far as it's software side goes.

Now I just wish linux would get smart and better polish it's over all desktop appeal. Guess I'll have to get my lazy butt off the couch and start coding (not that it would really even do much good) :-[


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Hmmm.... Maybe I should have posted this on the win7 thread.... o well >_>

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #67 on: July 31, 2009, 02:26:11 PM »
Many of you know my infamous reputation of hating anything begining with "MS". However, despite that I have to say that Win7 seems to have a lot of polish and sex appeal. I've seen lists of changes and various benchmarks. All in all, it's shaped up very nicely as far as it's software side goes.

Now I just wish linux would get smart and better polish it's over all desktop appeal. Guess I'll have to get my lazy butt off the couch and start coding (not that it would really even do much good) :-[


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Hmmm.... Maybe I should have posted this on the win7 thread.... o well >_>
when people start paying for linux you will see it get real developing thrown into its UI

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #68 on: July 31, 2009, 02:28:05 PM »
when people start paying for linux you will see it get real developing thrown into its UI
Well... There is Red Hat and Novell. And Many of the software projects are funded from outside sources. But I'm hoping that google and it's new linux distro will help to contribute even more.

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #69 on: August 01, 2009, 05:29:48 AM »
Many of you know my infamous reputation of hating anything begining with "MS". However, despite that I have to say that Win7 seems to have a lot of polish and sex appeal. I've seen lists of changes and various benchmarks. All in all, it's shaped up very nicely as far as it's software side goes.

Now I just wish linux would get smart and better polish it's over all desktop appeal. Guess I'll have to get my lazy butt off the couch and start coding (not that it would really even do much good) :-[


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Hmmm.... Maybe I should have posted this on the win7 thread.... o well >_>
when people start paying for linux you will see it get real developing thrown into its UI
Companies are the only ones who pay for Linux, which is why it's a damn good server platform, and has crappy UI.  But, OT.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #70 on: August 01, 2009, 07:32:45 AM »
Well... There is Red Hat and Novell. And Many of the software projects are funded from outside sources. But I'm hoping that google and it's new linux distro will help to contribute even more.
I doubt Google will be able to contribute much to the UI. Google sucks at making UI that has more than a logo and a search bar.

But I agree with the rest of what you said dankles, Linux should take UI seriously.

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #71 on: August 01, 2009, 09:45:03 AM »
Windows 7 Final RTM is out now which is pretty much the way it'll be when released.
I have been using it for a week now and it works like a charm. No problems that couldn't be fixed within minutes.
I'm guessing you found a "wrong" way to get it. Anything major changed from RC1? Btw, have there only been RC1 and this Final RTM? Or has there been a RC2 and RC3 too? I just got RC1 when it was released and haven't heard anything about RC2.

EDIT: No need to answer my question anymore.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #72 on: August 01, 2009, 03:55:44 PM »
Well... There is Red Hat and Novell. And Many of the software projects are funded from outside sources. But I'm hoping that google and it's new linux distro will help to contribute even more.
I doubt Google will be able to contribute much to the UI. Google sucks at making UI that has more than a logo and a search bar.

But I agree with the rest of what you said dankles, Linux should take UI seriously.
Heh ya... I'm really anxious to see what the google OS interface will look like.

Have you seen the moblin v2 linux distro? *THAT* has quite a good interface (for a netbook). It uses the new OpenGL Clutter Toolkit designed by intel. And dell seems to be more interested in it than the google thing ATM.

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #73 on: August 03, 2009, 12:21:52 PM »
Well... There is Red Hat and Novell. And Many of the software projects are funded from outside sources. But I'm hoping that google and it's new linux distro will help to contribute even more.
I doubt Google will be able to contribute much to the UI. Google sucks at making UI that has more than a logo and a search bar.

But I agree with the rest of what you said dankles, Linux should take UI seriously.
Heh ya... I'm really anxious to see what the google OS interface will look like.

Have you seen the moblin v2 linux distro? *THAT* has quite a good interface (for a netbook). It uses the new OpenGL Clutter Toolkit designed by intel. And dell seems to be more interested in it than the google thing ATM.

I don't like looking into netbook stuff. I HATE netbooks. It's almost on equal par of hatred of macs. Basically, because to me, both are equally unusable. One is hardware lacking (I hate small keyboards and screens) one has a UI I cannot stand.

Ubuntu 9.04 was a disappointment to me. I'd rather have 8.10. (9.04 broke the screen res and some other small things) I'm too lazy to swap back, I'm waiting on 9.10 or w/e for a fix.

RTM on the other hand looks good. Hopefully, there's less of a BSOD issue in RTM.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #74 on: August 03, 2009, 01:22:29 PM »
I've owned a netbook, and liked it quite a bit. It's not a laptop or desktop or any kind of workstation. It was never ment to be such.

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #75 on: August 03, 2009, 01:25:45 PM »
I've owned a netbook, and liked it quite a bit. It's not a laptop or desktop or any kind of workstation. It was never ment to be such.

Which to me is a waste. I know of people who can make good use of a netbook, but I'm not one of them.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #76 on: August 03, 2009, 01:30:53 PM »
I've owned a netbook, and liked it quite a bit. It's not a laptop or desktop or any kind of workstation. It was never ment to be such.

Which to me is a waste. I know of people who can make good use of a netbook, but I'm not one of them.
Fair enough. For a guy like the that would travel a lot, it was very handy.

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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #77 on: August 03, 2009, 01:50:52 PM »
I turned off that stupid memory hogger on Vista, SuperFetch, and I've gained 1 to 2GB of free RAM. I've lost like ... 0 to 1 second on loading programs (pre-loaded or never been loaded on start up) which is a laugh. I thought it would become utter shit like XP Pro when loading programs or when you leave XP Pro running for like a day, two or three then it starts to hic up on you have to restart the OS ... but well, Vista is still the same as ever. Powerful, stable, and haven't lost a single speed even after leaving it for a long time running with a bunch of programs loaded.

I am very eager to get my hands on Windows 7, I'll have to purchase a legit copy (always purchase legit copies for OSs, learned my lesson a long time ago).


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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #78 on: August 03, 2009, 02:06:33 PM »
I've owned a netbook, and liked it quite a bit. It's not a laptop or desktop or any kind of workstation. It was never ment to be such.

Which to me is a waste. I know of people who can make good use of a netbook, but I'm not one of them.
Fair enough. For a guy like the that would travel a lot, it was very handy.

I travel a lot too, I've lugged 15.4" dell bricks of hell to the following cities: Calgary, Vancouver, Banff, Edmonton, Vancouver, Hong Kong, Pasay/Manila, Bagabag, Singapore, Malaysia//Kuala Lampur, Cameron Highlands Malaysia and a few other countries and cities.

However, my current laptop is a Sony Vaio SZ480. 13.3" gives me a full sized keyboard, probably only a little more weight than a netbook (40% more maybe, it's quite light even for a 13.3") and cost me about 1000 CAD last year. (Before any discounts like Black Friday or Boxing day). It totes enough power to run whatever I need minus current powerhouses like Crysis etc. (With a T7200, I'm sure I can take on approx 60% of most games, but I don't like to game on a laptop). I upgraded the HDD myself (needed a new one for my brother's laptop any way so I gave him my old one and bought a new one) and I can open and run my word processing etc for school very quickly, and again...  it's light. Though max battery is half of a netbook (windows 7 gives me 3:45 on lowest settings instead of the "up to 4:35" I was getting in Vista vs some netbooks in the 7-9 hour range) I'm quite pleased to have a better resolution and screen size to deal with and a bigger keyboard as well. Sure, it cost a little less than 3x the price of a netbook, but it works.

Did I mention that this thing is eyecandy vs other netbooks?

I've lugged this laptop to Sanfranciso, Hong Kong, Macau and Tokyo. I've never been happier with a computer purchase.
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Re: Still running XP?
« Reply #79 on: August 03, 2009, 02:33:35 PM »
I just wish the new acers were available with the hd4330 in the states.
A 13.3" led backlit, 3.5lb laptop with a core 2 duo, discrete graphics, and 5 - 8 hours of battery life for around $1k would be perfect.

Unlike the netbooks, I wouldn't feel the need to run XP.