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Kindle 2 - DRM to the extreme.

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Lupin:

--- Quote from: iindigo on July 27, 2009, 01:12:38 PM ---The current iPhone/iPod Touch books have no DRM, so I don't see why any for this new device would (especially if it can run iPhone apps).

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Yeah, it doesn't have DRM but Apple can remotely remove unwanted apps from your phone.

sdedalus83:
If they give it a display which can be comforably read in full sunlight, it might be appealing.

mgz:

--- Quote from: iindigo on July 27, 2009, 01:12:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: mgz on July 27, 2009, 01:03:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: iindigo on July 27, 2009, 12:38:02 AM ---Apple is rumored to be releasing a 10" tablet at some point during 1Q 2010... it's supposed to basically be like a jumbo iPod touch. Provided its price is (somewhat) reasonable and that the ebook market takes advantage of the app store with it (there are already a ton of iPod touch/iPhone ebooks, so it's not much of a jump), I fully expect it to kill Kindle and its draconian DRM.

I wonder why nobody else has created a highly successful product in that category... it seems like something that could be really useful, ranging from ebooks to a tablet that doctors tote around with them everywhere to a net portal for your recliner.



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and you expect it to be anywhere near 300$ and have no DRM lol  apple loves any kind of locking you into their bags of shit they can get

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The current iPhone/iPod Touch books have no DRM, so I don't see why any for this new device would (especially if it can run iPhone apps).

As for price, I'm expecting it to be somewhere between $500-$800, at least if it turns out to basically be a netbook with a specially-optimized OS in touchscreen tablet form. Its extra uses beyond book reading justify the price.



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its doesnt have DRM literally, but they can basically delete any and everything from your phone and not give you money or justify its deletion when ever they want. They also run their app store like nazis and try their best to lock every item that is on the phones down like its a super max prison.

So while no, there isnt DRM on it, it is a phone that is barely yours.

kyanwan:
The state of tech is suck.    I'm really dying to have an e-book reader ... as I've got TONS of tech crap I've gotta read. 

Sad thing is - the best reader I've found yet is a PocketPC - or a laptop. 

It's so bad, I'm even considering a tablet pc.  :( 

A nice thin large-display ebook reader - would be sweet as hell ... but I see nothing coming up that won't be total ass.

Sucks.   No more hardware companies for devices like this - we've got publisher-manufacturers now.   And that really bites.

 

dankles:

--- Quote from: kyanwan on July 26, 2009, 11:30:24 PM ---http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/27/technology/companies/27amazon.html

Seems Kindle 2 has DRM - that includes remote delete for titles.   I *WAS* thinking of buying this, but now, my respect for this product has gone from 100% to 0%.  

They sold copies of Orwell's 1984 - and had some kind of rights problem.   The solution?   Delete 1984 from *EVERYONE'S* Kindle.   What total BS!!!

Needless to say, it's dead to me.

:(  

Vent your disappointment!

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HELL YES!! Someone else that actually cares about stuff like this!!! Thank you Kyanwan!!
I heard about this from the defective-by-design mailing list.
http://www.defectivebydesign.org/

EDIT:
I'd buy a kindle if i could re-install my own linux system onto it. The book like feel of it is really nice.

EDIT2:

--- Quote from: mgz on July 27, 2009, 02:26:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: iindigo on July 27, 2009, 01:12:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: mgz on July 27, 2009, 01:03:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: iindigo on July 27, 2009, 12:38:02 AM ---Apple is rumored to be releasing a 10" tablet at some point during 1Q 2010... it's supposed to basically be like a jumbo iPod touch. Provided its price is (somewhat) reasonable and that the ebook market takes advantage of the app store with it (there are already a ton of iPod touch/iPhone ebooks, so it's not much of a jump), I fully expect it to kill Kindle and its draconian DRM.

I wonder why nobody else has created a highly successful product in that category... it seems like something that could be really useful, ranging from ebooks to a tablet that doctors tote around with them everywhere to a net portal for your recliner.



--- End quote ---
and you expect it to be anywhere near 300$ and have no DRM lol  apple loves any kind of locking you into their bags of shit they can get

--- End quote ---

The current iPhone/iPod Touch books have no DRM, so I don't see why any for this new device would (especially if it can run iPhone apps).

As for price, I'm expecting it to be somewhere between $500-$800, at least if it turns out to basically be a netbook with a specially-optimized OS in touchscreen tablet form. Its extra uses beyond book reading justify the price.



--- End quote ---
its doesnt have DRM literally, but they can basically delete any and everything from your phone and not give you money or justify its deletion when ever they want. They also run their app store like nazis and try their best to lock every item that is on the phones down like its a super max prison.

So while no, there isnt DRM on it, it is a phone that is barely yours.

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That is DRM, just in a different form.
MS Vista and google android also has this remote trigger to disable stuff too, just for the record.

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