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Borror0:
--- Quote from: Aneroph on October 27, 2009, 03:48:51 AM ---You're completely mistaken Furoshiki. Saying that English voice actors don't put any heart into their work is ridiculous.
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I think that the reasoning behind it has some merit though. Being a voice actor in Japan and in America is not equally glamorous. In one case, you're most likely an idol. In the other, you're most likely an actor that is not successful enough to feature in bigger shows.
You're not going to see the same caliber of talent or passion as a result.
Aneroph:
--- Quote from: Borror0 on October 27, 2009, 04:05:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: Aneroph on October 27, 2009, 03:48:51 AM ---You're completely mistaken Furoshiki. Saying that English voice actors don't put any heart into their work is ridiculous.
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I think that the reasoning behind it has some merit though. Being a voice actor in Japan and in America is not equally glamorous. In one case, you're most likely an idol. In the other, you're most likely an actor that is not successful enough to feature in bigger shows.
You're not going to see the same caliber of talent or passion as a result.
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You're misunderstanding the meaning of words here. Heart + passion != good work, just as good work != heart + passion. Have you ever seen the movie "Rudy"? That little Irish kid had basically 0 talent for football, but dammit if he didn't give 120%. You can say that English voice actors don't have talent (or at least not as much as other more prominent actors), you can say they just aren't as good as Japanese, you can even say they don't have the same training, but to say they're not even trying is just a blatant attack on people who do a lot of hard work so that people can enjoy anime on television without reading subs.
shabutie:
I wonder if the Japanese feel the same way about JDubs on English shows as we feel about EDubs on Japanese shows...
Borror0:
--- Quote from: Aneroph on October 27, 2009, 04:22:37 AM ---You're misunderstanding the meaning of words here. Heart + passion != good work, just as good work != heart + passion. Have you ever seen the movie "Rudy"? That little Irish kid had basically 0 talent for football, but dammit if he didn't give 120%. You can say that English voice actors don't have talent (or at least not as much as other more prominent actors), you can say they just aren't as good as Japanese, you can even say they don't have the same training, but to say they're not even trying is just a blatant attack on people who do a lot of hard work so that people can enjoy anime on television without reading subs.
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I don't see why you think it's such an insulting or ridiculous statement.
Take note that Havoc did acknowledge that American VAs did put efforts in their work; the difference is the passion.
In America, being a voice actor is often a job of transition to acquire experience whereas, in Japan, it is a vocation and something many people aspire to (and, in Soviet Russia, something aspires people). The end result is American voice actor are generally less passionate about their work than their Japanese counterparts. It's just a cultural thing. If being a janitor was glamorous in America but not in Canada, American janitors would be far more passionate about their work than Canadian ones.
--- Quote from: shabutie on October 27, 2009, 04:29:57 AM ---I wonder if the Japanese feel the same way about JDubs on English shows as we feel about EDubs on Japanese shows...
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Semi-related to what you said: http://is.gd/4DHSK
shabutie:
Saying that English VA don't give passion is bull shit... (Notable English VA: Dan Castellaneta, Billy West, John Dimaggio, Brendon Small, Mark Hamill)
Now saying English Dubbers don't give passion isn't. ;D
(Just wanna get that out there XD)
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