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The best suicide technology in the world (nuclear technology?)
psyren:
/facepalm
darkjedi:
--- Quote from: bloody000 on August 07, 2009, 09:16:45 AM ---It's Iran, they will mange to blow up even the most reliable reactor somehow.
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That's naive.
All the test runs and operation rehearsals involving more than 6000 centrifuges in their enrichment facilities have indicated no difficulties whatsoever on the Iranian's part to operate them. They can handle their nuclear fuels precisely and efficiently. They are not going to spill them over slipping on some banana peel. The Iranian reactors are being built using the finest Russian nuclear engineering technology, and they are as reliable as any modern Russian or Chinese reactors. Don't go 'look at Chernobyl, lol, it's Russia!', it will just make you look stupid. Iranians of 2009 are not Russians of 1986.
As for the 'negligence' issue, neither Russia nor Iran can afford to botch the Iranian nuclear program, because it has a very significant impact on the economic strategy of both countries. Counting out the insurance policy of the multi-billion contract between Russia and Iran, wherein if a Iranian nuclear reactor fails due to technical reasons, the Russians will be required to build another nuclear reactor at their own expense as a compensation, they also have the oil industry of Iran at stake. It's a rather simple explanation that even myself isn't fond of discussing, (because it's so dull) so I'm just gonna leave it there. Suffice it to say, Iran's nuclear program is so important that they cannot be anything but seriously careful about it. And yes, Iranians do care about its citizens, thank you. I hope that cleared some things up.
bloody000:
The whole world is looking at Iran right now, of course everything's fine and dandy.
We'll see how much care they put into it after the attention died down. You already know my view on that so I'll save it.
darkjedi:
The West just doesn't want a Muslim nation like Iran to become as awesome as the West is through nuclear power. Just look at all the 'Iran wants to make bombs!' rhetoric that people like H. Clinton are yapping about despite all the evidence to the contrary, produced by the IAEA itself. She doesn't even know the very reason why she has Air Force Two to herself is because countries like Iran are selling oils to them. It's all stupid politics.
Iran on the other hand uses their nuclear program for economic uses. Even if it is not anymore politically significant, they'll still go ahead with their program and carefully manage it, because it has a tangible benefit to them. To the West, the benefit is mostly psychological. They just don't want Iran achieving nuclear power status because it's a Muslim nation who has a rational reason to despise the West. Iran just don't like the way the West exploited the monarchy of Iran during the Cold War to gain more control over Iran's oil. U.S.'s interference in state of affairs in Iraq is one good example. Iran has every good reason to hate the West, while the West has none.
BuriaL:
--- Quote from: darkjedi on August 07, 2009, 03:26:59 AM ---Ok, I reread BuriaL's posts and saw this:
--- Quote from: BuriaL on August 06, 2009, 10:12:58 PM ---You know the big ball of light that circle earth every day? Its magnetic and attracts water.
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Seriously, WTF.
(Got back from google making sure that water don't get attracted by magnets)
And now I'm left to wander and wonder just when on Earth we had a ball of light orbiting Earth each day. ._.
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Well we call balls of light sun and moon. Is sarcasm unfamiliar?
Read the last part of this post.
--- Quote from: bloody000 on August 07, 2009, 09:08:04 AM ---covering cities with solar panels: how are you going mount them? don't point to that stupid article, the author apparently lives in a world that has no gravity, wind and their panels don't need maintenance.
Of course you can "use" geo-thermal power in the same sense that Californians are using our hydropower. Did you notice that geothermal plants are built on unstable regions?
It's a stupid idea to recycle the waste heat from my 1kW air-con. It's not stupid to recycle the waste heat of a large industrial plant. Read what I wrote again.
Did you notice that most tidal generators are built near outlets? because the shape of the outlet "compress" the tide and make it much easier to harness. The Netherlands is flat, their sea is shallow, the tidal power is too spread out.
Oh and it's gravity, not magnetism, expert.
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You mean the parking lot thing? Trees like that allready exist, not to mention that they use the same technique as some of those solar plant panels.
How to mount panels on stuff? In a frame, fastened to the wood/steel/concrete. Where to put them? you can put them below a window on a building. It would be easy to maintain.
You could put them on the roof, if the roof have the right angle and accessability. Most roofs have pretty easy access, since they need to be checked once in a while, and in europe we need to remove snow and clean the pipes.
The regions used for making geo-themal plants are pretty large, maybe you should check out a map of earth.
Think i mentioned that the "heat to electricity" tech isnt advanced enough for certain things, ace were talking about 40 years from now..
I did read what you wrote again.
--- Quote ---Recycling waste energy is nothing new. You just have to make up the cost of doing it.
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You make it seem like and bad idea, like an extra expense.
According to IceRiccy i were wrong about the nederlands, theyre allready using tidal power. I guess it still dont work in youre mind.
--- Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide ---Tides are the rising of Earth's ocean surface caused by the tidal forces of the Moon and the Sun acting on the oceans.
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And yes it does have to do with gravity. But gravity is magnetism, a planets magnetic field.
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