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The best suicide technology in the world (nuclear technology?)
BuriaL:
I guess i shouldnt have assumed anything, since at least some of the plants are gas-turbine x/
darkjedi:
--- Quote from: BuriaL on August 09, 2009, 08:55:32 AM ---I guess i shouldnt have assumed anything, since at least some of the plants are gas-turbine x/
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:P
And it's not some, it's most of them.
mgz:
--- Quote from: darkjedi on August 07, 2009, 10:31:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: bloody000 on August 07, 2009, 09:16:45 AM ---It's Iran, they will mange to blow up even the most reliable reactor somehow.
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That's naive.
All the test runs and operation rehearsals involving more than 6000 centrifuges in their enrichment facilities have indicated no difficulties whatsoever on the Iranian's part to operate them. They can handle their nuclear fuels precisely and efficiently. They are not going to spill them over slipping on some banana peel. The Iranian reactors are being built using the finest Russian nuclear engineering technology, and they are as reliable as any modern Russian or Chinese reactors. Don't go 'look at Chernobyl, lol, it's Russia!', it will just make you look stupid. Iranians of 2009 are not Russians of 1986.
As for the 'negligence' issue, neither Russia nor Iran can afford to botch the Iranian nuclear program, because it has a very significant impact on the economic strategy of both countries. Counting out the insurance policy of the multi-billion contract between Russia and Iran, wherein if a Iranian nuclear reactor fails due to technical reasons, the Russians will be required to build another nuclear reactor at their own expense as a compensation, they also have the oil industry of Iran at stake. It's a rather simple explanation that even myself isn't fond of discussing, (because it's so dull) so I'm just gonna leave it there. Suffice it to say, Iran's nuclear program is so important that they cannot be anything but seriously careful about it. And yes, Iranians do care about its citizens, thank you. I hope that cleared some things up.
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you say things like this when just recently a 2nd jet crashed in iran killing everyone on it.
Just because it is significant to the country doesnt mean the will or wont fuck it up. Everyone knows it would be important for them, but if the government isnt investing lots of money to keep it up and running decades down the road tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people will be the victims when the current leader of iran is dead or gone.
Iran isnt synonymous with high quality and maintaining their shit.
Russia has been known to get shit done regardless of the people in more recent years. Blunders like chernobyl happened and they keep that shit going.
I dont see iran as anything like russia in their mindset and functionality.
darkjedi:
--- Quote from: mgz on August 10, 2009, 02:40:20 PM ---you say things like this when just recently a 2nd jet crashed in iran killing everyone on it.
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Shhh. Iranian mullahs care less about the safety of air travelers than they do for the integrity of their nuclear program. Which one do you think is more beneficial to them?
--- Quote from: mgz on August 10, 2009, 02:40:20 PM ---Just because it is significant to the country doesnt mean the will or wont fuck it up.
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Correct.
--- Quote from: mgz on August 10, 2009, 02:40:20 PM ---but if the government isnt investing lots of money to keep it up
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This is what you don't know. Iranians are investing more money for their nuclear program than most European countries do. They spend more than South Korea does.
--- Quote from: mgz on August 10, 2009, 02:40:20 PM --- and running decades down the road tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people will be the victims when the current leader of iran is dead or gone.
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Possible, but also unlikely. Iranians are as accomplished as Europeans in nuclear management and nuclear science. It's only that because the West does not want to trade with Iran the necessary technology and machinery that they are turning to the Russians and the Chinese, which makes you think that the Iranian nuclear programs are defective, because they are, after all, Russian and Chinese technology. ::)
--- Quote from: mgz on August 10, 2009, 02:40:20 PM ---Iran isnt synonymous with high quality and maintaining their shit.
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That's by the 'West' standard, and the West happens to be the very reason why Iranian has this 'quality' and 'maintenance' problem. You guys just don't want to help. All you do is whining. You guys help South Korea, so why not Iran?
--- Quote from: mgz on August 10, 2009, 02:40:20 PM ---Blunders like chernobyl happened and they keep that shit going.
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They didn't have any other blunder like that since the Soviet Union fell.
Look at the U.S. also. They've got the whole crew of two space shuttles killed, but they are still pushing forward with manned space missions. What's wrong with Russia doing what the U.S. is doing, reflecting upon mistakes, and improvising as necessary?
--- Quote from: mgz on August 10, 2009, 02:40:20 PM ---I dont see iran as anything like russia in their mindset and functionality.
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In the science and engineering department, they are the same. Iranian engineers and scientists are as proficient as Russian or American engineers and scientists. (how many times must I reiterate this lol)
mgz:
you say iranian engineers are as good as US or Russian, then why were they buying shit from the US until the trade embargo and why do they continue to buy from russia .... if they could engineer it themselves its generally cheaper over any kind of timespan
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