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The best suicide technology in the world (nuclear technology?)
Sosseres:
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--- Quote from: darkjedi on August 11, 2009, 01:54:52 PM ---But you can very well bet that the next generation of South Korean scientists will be among the best in the world, if the current youth's scientific literacy is any indication. (high school students of today will be the scientists of 20 years later, right?)
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The biggest problem with asian countries is that people work too hard. When working hard, you have less time for your creativity and therefore will never make the big inventions. There is a point when people are not taught something, but make a thesis themselves. Working conditions in the west allows people to be creative and that is why all the "basis" technology is invented here. However all that hard work will grant you rapid improvements on the stuff already created by us. I have hundreds of examples for that.
Good scientists? maybe, good human calculating machines... yeah, definitely.
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Won't computer take over more and more of the research work as time passes? Thus hard working might be all that is needed? ^^
darkjedi:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on August 14, 2009, 04:08:29 PM ---Good scientists? maybe, good human calculating machines... yeah, definitely.
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Yeah, well, being better scientists wouldn't necessarily mean they'll come up with better technology. That's what I've been pointing out to mgz. Koreans are clearly one of the hardest working academics around the world but also one of the biggest social dumbass, and such people cannot comprehend the needs and demands of a modern society. (the most common Korean stereotype nowadays in the world of academics is 'fat eye-glassed braggart' xD) many of them have good theoretical understanding of difficult subjects like quantum physics and astronomy, but that's precisely the problem; why do we need understanding of such subjects? Why do we study those? we don't need quantum physics and astronomy, yet they insist on probing those subjects instead of more useful subjects such as telecommunication and chemistry, because that's what they are; they are socially dumb, and do not realize what the society requires of them. They want quantum physics and astronomy because they have sentiments like 'some other idiots will be studying 'low' subjects like telecom and chem anyway', and feels the need to brag about what they call 'higher understanding of the facets of the universe' ::)
Clearly the 'lowly' Iranians worked harder in telecommunication and chemistry, and now that is why they have the capability to launch space satellites using reverse-engineered Scud missiles, while Koreans can't launch anything yet even with the finest Russian technology. Iranians lacked understanding in astronomy, yes, but did they really need it? ;) They only need to know what they need to know.
But then again, neither was Einstein a very sociable person. Even though we cannot be fully useful due to social incongruity, we still definitely can come up with comprehensive proposals at least in the academic world. I'm still willing to bet that in the next few years the society will also adopt the interest of the academic world so that the skills of astronomers and quantum physicists will not go to waste. If we start getting interested in space mining and space railguns and interstellar-magnitude space travel in the near future, I'm pretty sure the Japanese and the Korean newcomers will be at the frontier of its research and development along with the American and European veterans.
mgz:
and what ace is trying to say i believe, is without societies that promote free thought rather widely you stifle creativity which slows progress in more ways then just culture.
darkjedi:
--- Quote from: mgz on August 15, 2009, 03:32:39 AM ---and what ace is trying to say i believe, is without societies that promote free thought rather widely you stifle creativity which slows progress in more ways then just culture.
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Yes, and that is precisely the reason why South Korea's lagging behind Iran in space technology. That doesn't mean Iranians have better astronomers though, and in the same manner, Iranians are no less proficient than any other scientists are in the world, despite their less fabulous technology. :)
AceHigh:
--- Quote from: darkjedi on August 15, 2009, 03:48:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: mgz on August 15, 2009, 03:32:39 AM ---and what ace is trying to say i believe, is without societies that promote free thought rather widely you stifle creativity which slows progress in more ways then just culture.
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Yes, and that is precisely the reason why South Korea's lagging behind Iran in space technology. That doesn't mean Iranians have better astronomers though, and in the same manner, Iranians are no less proficient than any other scientists are in the world, despite their less fabulous technology. :)
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I am glad you both understand. As mgz said, it's exactly what I meant. You need to be more idle in order to be more creative. Just as an example there was done research that people who work less at work, find more mistakes because they look at things from a different perspective. In case of scientists the effect may be more dramatic like for example some completely new invention that nobody has ever even thought of.
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