oh your talking about military strength i was looking more into the the country citizen's lives as you can see there's a vast difference in iran and korea
tech savy koreans and irans who are way behind overall ( looking at it as a whole )
Iran still bites Korea's ass in space tech!
And they bite it using Scud missiles.
But yeah I agree, as a whole Korea is still more scientifically advanced, although not in a very useful way.
sry i should rephrase that failing in using their man source for war and weapons instead of research and development
they are tooo overly focus in military strength to look at their county people.
Hehe, actually no, Korea invest three times as much money for their military annually than Iran does, because of their proximity to North Korea. Iran favors cheap asymmetric warfare and proxy wars because it suits their political ideology better; Iranians oppose their adversaries through strategic deterrence and diplomatic coercion, not military conquest. Korea has a massive conventional military, complete with guided missile destroyers (10 in service) and aircraft carriers (one built, another one under construction) and hundreds of deep-strike strategic fighters such as the F-15 and F-16. South Korea's long-term ambition is actually to build a blue-water navy that will be capable of attacking other countries in other continents; they won't necessarily stop at self-defense. Iran doesn't have such ambitions. Hell, the Korean lifestyle is also very heavily military-oriented; I'm expected to serve at least 2 years in their military any time between next year and 15 years later in Korea, no excuse allowed, while in Iran I would be serving only 1 1/2 years, and scholars are exempted from military training.
So you could say that Iran cares more about its citizens' comfort than Korea does. (the male population, at least) I tell you, the prospect of undergoing Korea's level of military training regimen is seriously debilitating to the innocent minds of young citizens like me.
i agreed on you on that, the older generation should be there to guild the new fresh scientists to new heights and teach them their knowledge of their own experience. Something like to learn from the past as not to repeat the same mistake
Indeed! The veteran Korean academics should be motivating and ushering us towards superiority, not slowing us down and bashing us for being smarter braggarts than they are. xD
even so on this like you said they have lots of insights and self studying but where do they get their base of research and information from? isn't it from what the older generation have found out and passed the knowledge on so that young scientist can find this and use it as a base for their own research and experiments?
That's correct. However, much of the knowledge that we Koreans are benefiting from right now is not from the older Korean generations, but rather from America's and Russia's generations. For example,
if the Korean space agency's KSLV-1 launch tomorrow is successful, it would be largely because Russia's space technology, which we derived much of our space technology from, was already very well-established and easy to follow, not really because the older Korean generations were particularly proficient in space technology. It wouldn't necessarily mean that the old Korean scientists and engineers who were involved in our space program were necessarily competent, and if those Korean scientists and engineers were indeed not so competent, how can they teach us properly?
Simply put, we young Koreans owe the older generations of Americans and Russians more than we owe the older generations of Korea itself, because it's from them that we really learned the things that are actually valuable to us.
even if they might get a breakthrough you can't deny the part that the older generation has played in helping him find out the breakthrough faster and quicker?
Same us above.
If we had to thank someone for helping us, we'd be thanking the Americans and Russians, not the senile old Koreans.
heck given a few more years won't the older generation of scientist do the same?
Do you mean that, if we ourselves become the old generation of scientists many years later, we will also be oppressing the new generation of scientists just like we are being oppressed right now? Of course we will be.
It's a natural part of our human psyche; we don't want to be phased-out because that's detrimental to survival, and so we'll do our best not to be superseded by the new generation as much as possible. But right now since
we are the new generation who are being oppressed, we are the ones complaining.
if they hadn't share their own research and knowledge i highly don't think that the young scientist can make a new finding without first using the core base research which the higher prestige older generation has found. (for that i respect them)
I respect some of them. But not all. Some of them just need to retire right now and rest their brains, and quite a few needs to die already. They are getting less beneficial to us as we learn more, and are actually starting to impede our country from progressing. Even though we must be grateful for some of their services, that shouldn't mean we should keep them with us forever out of sentimentality.
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korea 1st world and iran 3rd world =\
I think that has more to do with economic/political circumstances rather than technology. Iran had fewer trading opportunities than Korea did because of U.S.'s trade embargo on Iran since the 1979 Islamic revolution. That means a lot, because the U.S. was 1/3 of the world trade at that time. Iran did not have a good trading relationship with Europe either because so many of European products had American-licensed components in them, especially the high-tech ones like electronics and semiconductors, and America did not want Europe to trade products that had American quality with blacklisted countries like Iran. It doesn't apply just to hardware but to intellectual property and technology also; Korea could purchase any technology they wanted from anyone as long as they had money, be it Russian, (space program) Chinese, (industrial technology) or Japanese/European/American. (everything else) Iran can't do so even if they had money; at least not from the Americans, and they still couldn't trade technology with Russia and China until the Soviet Union fell. Iran was very isolated throughout its late history since 1979, unlike South Korea who had enjoyed good relationships with good benefactors since its formation.
Things are slightly changing, though. One thing, Iran has a lot of oil, and the demand for oil is increasing. Their economy is slowly catching up with that of the rest of the developed world, (860 billion USD by purchasing power parity, and steadily increasing despite the global recession, unlike South Korea whose 1.3 trillion USD economy is deteriorating right now) and they have a better relationship with Russia and China, two most notorious (not that it's bad xD) technology and hardware sellers in the world. As I've said, even though Iran has a very good latent economic power due to their purchasing power parity, Iran is still living in a 3rd world environment because their money is sitting ducks and don't get converted to domestic use very well. No one except Russia and China wants to purchase Iranian money and sell foreign products to them. That is why their domestic development was hampered and inflation is high, (their nomial GDP is less than half of their purchasing power parity; it means much of the money is in the form of currency, not in the form of hardware or infrastructure) because their money don't get used often to buy and sell products, and also because Western products have ridiculously expensive price in Iran if they happen to be available.
So it's not the technology that draws the line between a 1st world Korea and a 3rd world Iran, but rather economy and politics.
