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Meaning of life?
Drew:
The meaning of life for me is... watch anime, play games, and have sex.
Doesn't get more fundamental than that! :D
darkjedi:
--- Quote from: shabutie on August 19, 2009, 03:02:56 AM ---if we didn't waste all of our time figuring out new ways to kill each other.
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Killing and predation is the only way by which we humans become progressive.
--- Quote from: shabutie on August 19, 2009, 03:02:56 AM ---I remember a quote I heard from someone a while back. "If we landed on the moon 40 years ago, why are cars still on the ground?"
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Eh, why shouldn't it?
And I don't think 'because we were busy killing each other' is the reason why cars are still on the ground. Car is on the ground because it's what they are. If it's not on the ground, it's not a car.
quekmeister:
--- Quote from: darkjedi on August 19, 2009, 08:41:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: shabutie on August 19, 2009, 03:02:56 AM ---if we didn't waste all of our time figuring out new ways to kill each other.
--- End quote ---
Killing and predation is the only way by which we humans become progressive.
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Well I prefer to think of it as conflict making the way for improvement. By striving toward the elimination of conflict (an unachieveable goal due to our own psychological limitations), we tend to improve ourselves. In essence I agree with you though, darkjedi.
--- Quote from: darkjedi on August 19, 2009, 08:41:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: shabutie on August 19, 2009, 03:02:56 AM ---I remember a quote I heard from someone a while back. "If we landed on the moon 40 years ago, why are cars still on the ground?"
--- End quote ---
Eh, why shouldn't it?
And I don't think 'because we were busy killing each other' is the reason why cars are still on the ground. Car is on the ground because it's what they are. If it's not on the ground, it's not a car.
--- End quote ---
*Nods sagely* Let's see, the technology we used to land on the moon was, by today's standards, crap. The cars we had at the time similarly were, by today's standards, crap (or vintage if you're a car enthusiast).
If you're gonna talk about moon landing tech, then you'd better compare it with space travel technology today. We're testing many kinds of new propulsion systems and life support systems (especially so), because when it comes down to it, the technology isn't the limitation, it's the people. Look at Voyager and Pioneer, they kept going, and going, and going, and kept working(!). This shows that we have the tech to travel, just that we can't handle it over the vastness of space. Yet. Besides, most of the other places in the Solar System are really crappy places to be, let the robots handle them for the moment.
Then let's talk about cars: Fuel efficiency compared to 40 years ago? Better. Durability? Better. Safety? Better. Aesthetics? Better (arguably). And if you'd talked about a car going 400 miles per hour without a rocket strapped to it 40 years ago, they would've told you to go boil your head. Now we have the Veyron.
vuzedome:
--- Quote from: Timdog on August 19, 2009, 02:11:28 AM ---To me, I feel the meaning of life is to explore as much of life as we can.
Learn as much as you can, experience as many things as you can, form relationships, etc.
There are so many things we can do in this life, and I think we as humans want to experience as much of that as possible. Also, think about it this way, why do we watch sporting events? Because we have no idea what the real outcome of the event will be. Things slowly unfold (or quickly if you're Usain Bolt 8)) but it is the curiosity at what might happen that makes us interested in it. I think this applies to a lot of things in life.
Then again, we also find comfort in familiar things like a particular song we love or rewatching a particular movie.
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Ff you asked me five months ago, this would had been my reply, wait till you get a taste of what being in power truly feels like, you'll want what I want as well now, IMMORTALITY!!!
shabutie:
--- Quote from: quekmeister on August 19, 2009, 09:03:47 AM ---
--- Quote from: darkjedi on August 19, 2009, 08:41:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: shabutie on August 19, 2009, 03:02:56 AM ---if we didn't waste all of our time figuring out new ways to kill each other.
--- End quote ---
Killing and predation is the only way by which we humans become progressive.
--- End quote ---
Well I prefer to think of it as conflict making the way for improvement. By striving toward the elimination of conflict (an unachieveable goal due to our own psychological limitations), we tend to improve ourselves. In essence I agree with you though, darkjedi.
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This is true as well. Most things that were invented came from the military. Ending conflict will never happen. We've come too far from that for it to ever become a reality.
We just got off as a species on the wrong foot... Is the only reason we are able to communicate / have our technology is because of our lust for violence? Or was in inevitable? I would like to think that it wasn't and we could have lived peacefully, but we may never know.
--- Quote from: quekmeister on August 19, 2009, 09:03:47 AM ---
--- Quote from: darkjedi on August 19, 2009, 08:41:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: shabutie on August 19, 2009, 03:02:56 AM ---I remember a quote I heard from someone a while back. "If we landed on the moon 40 years ago, why are cars still on the ground?"
--- End quote ---
Eh, why shouldn't it?
And I don't think 'because we were busy killing each other' is the reason why cars are still on the ground. Car is on the ground because it's what they are. If it's not on the ground, it's not a car.
--- End quote ---
*Nods sagely* Let's see, the technology we used to land on the moon was, by today's standards, crap. The cars we had at the time similarly were, by today's standards, crap (or vintage if you're a car enthusiast).
If you're gonna talk about moon landing tech, then you'd better compare it with space travel technology today. We're testing many kinds of new propulsion systems and life support systems (especially so), because when it comes down to it, the technology isn't the limitation, it's the people. Look at Voyager and Pioneer, they kept going, and going, and going, and kept working(!). This shows that we have the tech to travel, just that we can't handle it over the vastness of space. Yet. Besides, most of the other places in the Solar System are really crappy places to be, let the robots handle them for the moment.
Then let's talk about cars: Fuel efficiency compared to 40 years ago? Better. Durability? Better. Safety? Better. Aesthetics? Better (arguably). And if you'd talked about a car going 400 miles per hour without a rocket strapped to it 40 years ago, they would've told you to go boil your head. Now we have the Veyron.
--- End quote ---
Simply saying that in the past 40 years, we've landed on the moon (supposedly) and, sure, cars have gotten better overall during that time, but they could be so much more. The only thing keeping them down is the big oil companys (Who also had a major pull in US Politics for a while, and probably still do). Think about it... If we end up coming up with a cheaper / renewable fuel source that's also environment friendly... some of the richest people in the world lose their money.
Greed and War make the world go round.
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