Why such short fight scenes?

[Humanoidz]

I don't get it.  Why are fight scenes given up in favor of more stupid dialogue?  Like One Piece for example, I love the show but the fight scenes are too darn short.  It cannot believe its more expensive to animate and sound a fight scene than it is to do more dialogue, or does it really take a hell of a lot longer to animate a fight than it is to plug in dialogue from the recording booth?.  Still, ITS ANIMATION, not a live action, action movie that costs loads of time and money to setup a proper fight scene.  Less talk, more fight, damn it! 

[relic2279]

Guess you haven't seen Dragonball Z, Naruto or Bleach.

[Duki3003]

I don't think it's a matter of cost, I think it's more a matter of it's easier to draw them standing and yapping...

[LiquidZero]

cheah i agree with the poster up top ^

its much much easier to draw a long intricate conversation

then a short actiony fight scene.

this is why fighting games never had movies that did them justice, not ENOUGH fights or fights are WAY TOO SHORT.

[Takeshi]

Well, for One Piece, have you read the manga? You know, the anime follows the manga unless of course it's filler time, so they aren't doing it on purpose to do minimize the cost. Naruto for example, a fight was actually extended around episode 96:

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The Sannin Clash, it ended much sooner in the manga, but in the anime Tsunade bashed Oro around much more, and that was actually nice to see them improvising a little.

So, yeah, go watch what relic2279 said.

I'm glad One Piece isn't all about fighting, I'm currently watching just everything, and while the action is something that belongs in the anime, I'm all about the comedy.

[Sosseres]

I am of the opposite opinion, many series have too long fight scenes, where they just get ridiculous and does nothing to further plot/characterization. Heck just watch some series like Zeta Gundam, they have a third of the episode in combat, if you skip that entire period you missed nothing half the time. The other half they threw in dialogue in it.

(Not to mention the lovely accuracy where 15 meters is impossible distance to hit something at.)

[Havoc10K]

in theese days information about characters is more valuable than a simple fighting scene, the shorter the better, however aside from a nice fighting scene you also want to know more about characters, fake Fate for a perfect example, even in the game the combat scenes werent all that long, compared to character development it 5 mins vs 3 hours, in those 3 hours you learn a lot bout the character and the need for a fighting scene isn't necessary anymore, in a short fight you can easily determine the ability and skill level of the character, or it's inept ability in some cases, quick judgement and then char info, and you make a final judgement about the character.

Take Shirou for example, in the Fate anime he didn't fight all that much, now play the game, and learn a lot more stuff, hes an amazing character with a huge shitload of a character development on him focused, that alone is enough to make you go play the game and learn at least a lot about him, not to mention the rest of the characters.

Fighting scenes arent as much as needed in such terms.

Guess you haven't seen Dragonball Z, Naruto or Bleach.

6 eps build up and 5 mins ka-boom, quite useless indeed :]

[Sosseres]

Well something to take into consideration is how few scenes that are worth watching in combat. In a space battle spanning hours something akin to 90% is spent manouvering and at most 10% firing since things go down so quickly in most universes. In most cases it just becomes cheesy when you have long combat since one or two hits is enough to win.

[Southrop]

Guess you haven't seen Dragonball Z, Naruto or Bleach.

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Like that fight between Sarutobi and Orochimaru, in which it took 10 episodes for Sarutobi to die?

[WingZero8788]

Guess you haven't seen Dragonball Z, Naruto or Bleach.

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Like that fight between Sarutobi and Orochimaru, in which it took 10 episodes for Sarutobi to die?

Thinking about that takes me back to the DBZ fights. What was the longest fight sequence that took place during that series?

[Takeshi]

Guess you haven't seen Dragonball Z, Naruto or Bleach.

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Like that fight between Sarutobi and Orochimaru, in which it took 10 episodes for Sarutobi to die?

Thinking about that takes me back to the DBZ fights. What was the longest fight sequence that took place during that series?

They were all long. XD

But if I were to mention one, then maybe Frieza vs. Goku, Goku vs. Vegeta.

[darkjedi]

I like the way the fights are short, because that's the way combats are supposed to be.

Baccano knows this. 

[Noboru_san]

Guess you haven't seen Dragonball Z, Naruto or Bleach.

yea, but who desided that one piece was suppose to be a a violent anime, is more as a adventure, treasure hunting, not killing people

[anesthehero]

There are good short fight scenes that needed to be a little longer imo like in The King of Fighters: Another Day, those were good fight scenes.
And there are long boring fight scenes that needed to be shortened like in DBZ, Naruto or Bleach: they fight, then talk, then fight again, then have flashbacks of what happened just a minute or two ago, that's just booooooooooooooring .

[WingZero8788]

Guess you haven't seen Dragonball Z, Naruto or Bleach.

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Like that fight between Sarutobi and Orochimaru, in which it took 10 episodes for Sarutobi to die?

Thinking about that takes me back to the DBZ fights. What was the longest fight sequence that took place during that series?

They were all long. XD

But if I were to mention one, then maybe Frieza vs. Goku, Goku vs. Vegeta.

Yeah after I thought about it the Frieza vs. Goku fight came to mind.

[Carnivus]

Guess you haven't seen Dragonball Z, Naruto or Bleach.

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Like that fight between Sarutobi and Orochimaru, in which it took 10 episodes for Sarutobi to die?

Thinking about that takes me back to the DBZ fights. What was the longest fight sequence that took place during that series?

They were all long. XD

But if I were to mention one, then maybe Frieza vs. Goku, Goku vs. Vegeta.

Yeah after I thought about it the Frieza vs. Goku fight came to mind.

You might also add the fact of following minor characters doing almost nothing important.In some cases,they do help the hero,but only by doing minor things suitable for a minor character.

[Lupin]

I think of high speed motion sequences when you speak of fight scenes. You need need to render more frames to animate these sequences. Short fight scenes = less animation needed = less work = lower cost.

[AceD]

I don't get it.  Why are fight scenes given up in favor of more stupid dialogue?  Like One Piece for example, I love the show but the fight scenes are too darn short.  It cannot believe its more expensive to animate and sound a fight scene than it is to do more dialogue, or does it really take a hell of a lot longer to animate a fight than it is to plug in dialogue from the recording booth?.  Still, ITS ANIMATION, not a live action, action movie that costs loads of time and money to setup a proper fight scene.  Less talk, more fight, damn it! 

stupid dialogue? i love the dialogue in One Piece - if i want brainless action il goo watch Goku charge his spirit bomb for 10 episodes

[ZekeSulastin]

Well something to take into consideration is how few scenes that are worth watching in combat. In a space battle spanning hours something akin to 90% is spent manouvering and at most 10% firing since things go down so quickly in most universes. In most cases it just becomes cheesy when you have long combat since one or two hits is enough to win.

You know how much I would kill for more decent shows examining the strategic level of combat?  Good writing can go a long way in making such stuff interesting, especially if your space universe of choice has very limited abilities for a space fleet with regards to sensors and the ilk ..

[Humanoidz]

Don't get me wrong, I love One Piece comedy but if all these characters are also built to fight with unique styles, I want to see it.  I've seen DBZ but not in ten years.  I won't touch Naruto, don't care about Bleach.

I just hate when they build up a fight that should be epic, and then it ends in seconds............ .....  Is the One Piece manga longer on the fights?

Just because its easier to animate is a poor excuse, imo.  I've seen others with great fights that left me satisfied like Cowboy Bebop, Berserk, Trigun, Yu Yu Hakusho, but why a show that is as big as One Piece slacking on the good fights?

I think I'm complaining because I want One Piece to be perfect.