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Offline AceD

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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2009, 07:34:21 PM »
Don't get me wrong, I love One Piece comedy but if all these characters are also built to fight with unique styles, I want to see it.  I've seen DBZ but not in ten years.  I won't touch Naruto, don't care about Bleach.

I just hate when they build up a fight that should be epic, and then it ends in seconds............ .....  Is the One Piece manga longer on the fights?

Just because its easier to animate is a poor excuse, imo.  I've seen others with great fights that left me satisfied like Cowboy Bebop, Berserk, Trigun, but why a show that is as big as One Piece slacking on the good fights?

I think I'm complaining because I want One Piece to be perfect.
what fights in One Piece are you talking about anyway? final arc boss fights always are epic - Arlong, Crocodile, Rob Lucci, Enel, Moria...most of Zoro's fights also...and many more

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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2009, 07:41:43 PM »
Don't get me wrong, I love One Piece comedy but if all these characters are also built to fight with unique styles, I want to see it.  I've seen DBZ but not in ten years.  I won't touch Naruto, don't care about Bleach.

I just hate when they build up a fight that should be epic, and then it ends in seconds............ .....  Is the One Piece manga longer on the fights?

Just because its easier to animate is a poor excuse, imo.  I've seen others with great fights that left me satisfied like Cowboy Bebop, Berserk, Trigun, Yu Yu Hakusho, but why a show that is as big as One Piece slacking on the good fights?

I think I'm complaining because I want One Piece to be perfect.

you just like fighting a lot and want to see more, nothing wrong with that.  i just hope you don't want one piece to exclude plot development for more kicks and punches.  And can you mention a fight you find to be too short?  Because in the manga, the fights seem to be just fine in length, but they do depend on the situation (like if a characters is in a rush to move onto the next obstacle or whatnot). 
Or you can listen to Noboru-san and think one piece isn't violent and doesn't need fighting =]

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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2009, 08:06:41 PM »
Shit... the Frieza arc in DBZ. I think the Spirit Bomb ALONE was like 8 episodes? and so you add in the actual fights... so around 15?

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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2009, 11:00:09 PM »
Then don't consider Naruto, it will drive you mad. 3 episodes of talking, 2 episodes of charging super power, and then maybe  3 more episodes of figthing that is broken up every five second by two minutes of talking. I'm not even joking or exaggerating the slightest.

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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2009, 11:51:26 PM »
God this topic short of reminds me of one of the Street Fighter animes where Ryu did nothing but spin his arms in a circular motion for the entire episode trying to come up with Ki or something...sooo boring, then again I have also watched DBZ where nothing but "ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH" *I'm powering up* is the only thing happens for a week...



But on topic, aren't the good fight scenes cut short because in essence they are harder to animate and more expensive and time consuming (I'm thinking of  Kara no Kyoukai 5 the one where Shiki takes on the horde outside the apartments, awesomness. Or ep 6 where...whats her name in the church fights that plant thingy...really flashy :O)

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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2009, 12:00:08 AM »
It's not just the fight scenes. How long does a single match in Slam Dunk last?

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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2009, 06:59:55 AM »
Shit... the Frieza arc in DBZ. I think the Spirit Bomb ALONE was like 8 episodes? and so you add in the actual fights... so around 15?
wait, DBZ had fight scenes, I thought it was a show about constipation.

But seriously more fights are needed, real ones.  I was so dissapointed when I watched all of seirei no moribito and only got one fight scene in the second episode.  Or Rurouni Kenshin it had so much potential, but it was just I'll use this super awesome technique and talk about how you have a bad attitude then a frame of lines and it's over.  I mean tenjo tenge had better fights then that. Which is why TTGL is the best show ever.


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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2009, 09:10:15 AM »
Good animation (many frames) IS more costful than paning stillframes with dialogues.
So your original thought is wrong.

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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2009, 10:59:12 AM »
Don't get me wrong, I love One Piece comedy but if all these characters are also built to fight with unique styles, I want to see it.  I've seen DBZ but not in ten years.  I won't touch Naruto, don't care about Bleach.

I just hate when they build up a fight that should be epic, and then it ends in seconds............ .....  Is the One Piece manga longer on the fights?

Just because its easier to animate is a poor excuse, imo.  I've seen others with great fights that left me satisfied like Cowboy Bebop, Berserk, Trigun, but why a show that is as big as One Piece slacking on the good fights?

I think I'm complaining because I want One Piece to be perfect.
what fights in One Piece are you talking about anyway? final arc boss fights always are epic - Arlong, Crocodile, Rob Lucci, Enel, Moria...most of Zoro's fights also...and many more

Arlong and Crocodile were good.  I felt the Enel fight could have been longer and the whole arc shorter, Enel was definitely not my favorite arc.  I'd like to see more of Zoro; less one shot kills really.  I just finished the Foxy arc which had a good finale with Luffy's afro but what really got me was when Admiral Aokiji shows up a few episodes later
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Don't get me wrong, I love One Piece comedy but if all these characters are also built to fight with unique styles, I want to see it.  I've seen DBZ but not in ten years.  I won't touch Naruto, don't care about Bleach.

I just hate when they build up a fight that should be epic, and then it ends in seconds............ .....  Is the One Piece manga longer on the fights?

Just because its easier to animate is a poor excuse, imo.  I've seen others with great fights that left me satisfied like Cowboy Bebop, Berserk, Trigun, Yu Yu Hakusho, but why a show that is as big as One Piece slacking on the good fights?

I think I'm complaining because I want One Piece to be perfect.

you just like fighting a lot and want to see more, nothing wrong with that.  i just hope you don't want one piece to exclude plot development for more kicks and punches.  And can you mention a fight you find to be too short?  Because in the manga, the fights seem to be just fine in length, but they do depend on the situation (like if a characters is in a rush to move onto the next obstacle or whatnot).  
Or you can listen to Noboru-san and think one piece isn't violent and doesn't need fighting =]

I wouldn't give up plot development but an extra half episode to flesh out the fights some more is all I really want.  What I need to do is shut my mouth and watch it for what it is  ;D I just like a lot of action

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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2009, 11:01:09 AM »
the whole reason the Luffy VS Aokiji was so short was to show Luffy is no way near the strength of an Admiral yet.

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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2009, 12:42:06 PM »
the whole reason the Luffy VS Aokiji was so short was to show Luffy is no way near the strength of an Admiral yet.

Yeah, that's true. 

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Re: Why such short fight scenes?
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2009, 04:42:52 AM »
I can tell I'm not the biggest fan of action.  I found Toradora's lone fight scene far more engaging than anythine mentioned in this thread.