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fohfoh:

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--- Quote from: darkjedi on September 26, 2009, 12:22:49 AM ---Shall we ask McCain who Germany's president is, and use his answer to judge the educated average Americans' intelligence? After all he's an educated politician lol

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I love how he tried convince people to vote for him because he was in a POW camp for 5 years. Yer, cause being a POW for 5 years does a lot for your emotional and mental stability.

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Yup, you also learn great leadership / governing skills there (I hear at least) ^.^


EDIT: (Directed to fohfoh) I've learned a while ago to simply ignore whatever Darkjedi says... as most of his thoughts and opinions are derived from ignorance.

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He wasn't too bad a little while ago. But recently he's been on a campaign of propagandistic stupidity.

@Darkjedi:
So you're saying that Hawkings has a higher chance of survival than Shaq? "But not always".

Though this might slightly work for the average person to the idiot, it surely isn't a fact of real life. By your assumptions, a first world country is more prone to survive than a person from a third world country if they were both placed in a situation where they had no technology. Anyone want to guess the outcome of Survivor American children vs Cambodian children? And do we really need to argue IQ in either group of children?

Seriously, IQ fails in that it doesn't always test "useful" knowledge. Hooray for me, I know quantum mechanics. I get shipwrecked... wtf am I going to quantum mechanify to survive? The "stupid" fisherman is going to laugh at me, and the "idiot" jock is going to run off with sticks and beat something to death to eat. (Hopefully not the "Smart" theorist)

darkjedi:

--- Quote from: fohfoh on September 27, 2009, 05:06:27 AM ---@Darkjedi:
So you're saying that Hawkings has a higher chance of survival than Shaq? "But not always".

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Indeed, not always.

For example, greater intellectual capability does help people get better jobs if they use their intelligence properly, which gives them more money which is a crucial part of survival in the modern world in usual circumstances. But not always, as there are other aspects to consider aside from intelligence when determining how successful the person will be in life, like physique, the society he is in, the family background and the environmental conditions of his habitat, etc. (money is useless when you are living away from civilization lol) But intelligence does help people achieve a higher quality of living significantly, you cannot dispute that, and once these people achieve higher quality of living, they tend to start to look for some other things in life that interests them other than just survival.


--- Quote from: fohfoh on September 27, 2009, 05:06:27 AM ---Though this might slightly work for the average person to the idiot, it surely isn't a fact of real life. By your assumptions, a first world country is more prone to survive than a person from a third world country if they were both placed in a situation where they had no technology.

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Nope, not by my assumptions. Your are just putting words into my mouth, because I know I didn't make such assumptions. In fact I never drew comparisons between people from 1st world countries and 3rd world countries at all. Where did you get that?



--- Quote from: fohfoh on September 27, 2009, 05:06:27 AM ---Anyone want to guess the outcome of Survivor American children vs Cambodian children? And do we really need to argue IQ in either group of children?

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Ok, you guess. Show me proof that the Cambodian child will definitely have higher chance at surviving than the American.

My guess is: not always.

But I think this is going way out of topic now.


--- Quote from: fohfoh on September 27, 2009, 05:06:27 AM ---Seriously, IQ fails in that it doesn't always test "useful" knowledge. Hooray for me, I know quantum mechanics. I get shipwrecked... wtf am I going to quantum mechanify to survive? The "stupid" fisherman is going to laugh at me, and the "idiot" jock is going to run off with sticks and beat something to death to eat. (Hopefully not the "Smart" theorist)

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Yeah, so what's your point now lol

fohfoh:

--- Quote from: darkjedi on September 27, 2009, 05:16:14 AM ---

--- Quote from: fohfoh on September 27, 2009, 05:06:27 AM ---Anyone want to guess the outcome of Survivor American children vs Cambodian children? And do we really need to argue IQ in either group of children?

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Ok, you guess. Show me proof that the Cambodian child will definitely have higher chance at surviving than the American.

My guess is: not always.

But I think this is going way out of topic now.


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When you explain to me why talking about American Children is offtopic in an "average american" thread is offtopic, then I'll talk again.

darkjedi:
It took you 20 minutes just to type that? >_>

It's not off-topic yet. But it's going to be if we continue. That's my opinion.

fohfoh:

--- Quote from: darkjedi on September 27, 2009, 05:45:18 AM ---It took you 20 minutes just to type that? >_>

It's not off-topic yet. But it's going to be if we continue. That's my opinion.

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And you assume I religiously watch this thread why?

The average American probably has the same IQ as the average person in another country. However the type of information an American knows probably differs greatly from many other countries due to the lifestyle there.

Unlike Asian countries who are very aware of each other due to trade/foreign exchange and even politics, the USA doesn't really care. Why care about foreign exchange when people perceive your money as the standard? Focus on how much you get/profits instead. Politics. Why care about something you cannot see that doesn't really affect you? Desensitization of this allows for people to make stupid comments about armies and navies without knowing how the real world works. (Which fuels the fire about the American world policing comments)

It's not that the Americans are stupid, but more along the lines that Americans are led into learning all types of information that are inherently useless. (Thank the media for that one)

Which is why I would believe American children would be less likely to survive than Cambodian children. In comparison of similar levels, the media would "teach" these children less useless information and skills and less likely to fall on nothing. Not to mention I would assume that Cambodian children are more adept to modifying the knowledge they know. It's easy to look for a shovel or hand when needing to dig. But what if none were available? 

But... in the words of DarkJedi... "But not always". (Even if it is the minority)

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