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Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« on: September 04, 2009, 04:56:56 PM »
I'm trying to time some files I have with Blu-ray videos (and flac sounds). My problem is that it skips every other second so I asked Sakura and she tried to help me. I reduced the lag/skip but now I need it to be as accurate as possible. The video with the subs that is, so I can time it correctly. And sometimes the sound repeats itself in a weird way. I've got a very good computer, I just need to know if this is normal for Blu-ray videos (1080p) or is there a way to make the graphics very smooth with lag/skipping and no sound issues? Aegisub doesn't seem to be using my Core 2 Quad processors to the max either, usually 1/3rd almost half the output for all 4 CPU's.
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2009, 05:05:14 PM »
You sure it's not a setting issue outside of the player?

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Windows Vista/7 no longer uses Hardware Video Overlay to accelerate video while Aero is enabled (it uses VMR instead). Your video quality and playback will be choppy and slow, even if you have high end hardware like a Dual/Quad core CPU. AERO is all that eye-candy which includes all those fancy 3D effects that is part of the GUI.

For smooth playback, we suggest you use the Basic Themes and disable AERO altogether.

There's supposed to be another thing you can disable (beyond just the AERO issue thing) but I forget what it was....
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2009, 05:39:19 PM »
You sure it's not a setting issue outside of the player?

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Windows Vista/7 Tweak

Windows Vista/7 no longer uses Hardware Video Overlay to accelerate video while Aero is enabled (it uses VMR instead). Your video quality and playback will be choppy and slow, even if you have high end hardware like a Dual/Quad core CPU. AERO is all that eye-candy which includes all those fancy 3D effects that is part of the GUI.

For smooth playback, we suggest you use the Basic Themes and disable AERO altogether.

There's supposed to be another thing you can disable (beyond just the AERO issue thing) but I forget what it was....
Basic themes? I doubt it. I'm changing the name of the thread. What's a good program to overclock your CPU? This is the fan I am using:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4348098&CatId=493

First time to overclock something.


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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2009, 06:19:41 PM »
Programs to overclock? I thought it was just settings tweaking in the bios....
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2009, 06:28:50 PM »
Programs to overclock? I thought it was just settings tweaking in the bios....
I saw it once, I didn't touch it and I thought it would be dangerous to do so (or something). I'll have to play around with it this weekend, if I get the air duster to clean inside my computer.


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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2009, 06:29:46 PM »
Programs to overclock? I thought it was just settings tweaking in the bios....
I saw it once, I didn't touch it and I thought it would be dangerous to do so (or something). I'll have to play around with it this weekend, if I get the air duster to clean inside my computer.

Expect to fail. Just keep trying till its stable. (Or keep pushing up till it's no longer stable)
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2009, 06:32:43 PM »
Programs to overclock? I thought it was just settings tweaking in the bios....
I saw it once, I didn't touch it and I thought it would be dangerous to do so (or something). I'll have to play around with it this weekend, if I get the air duster to clean inside my computer.

Expect to fail. Just keep trying till its stable. (Or keep pushing up till it's no longer stable)
I've got the Q6600 Core 2 Quad type, would it be alright to push it from 2.4 to 3.2?


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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2009, 07:22:58 PM »
Programs to overclock? I thought it was just settings tweaking in the bios....
I saw it once, I didn't touch it and I thought it would be dangerous to do so (or something). I'll have to play around with it this weekend, if I get the air duster to clean inside my computer.

Expect to fail. Just keep trying till its stable. (Or keep pushing up till it's no longer stable)
I've got the Q6600 Core 2 Quad type, would it be alright to push it from 2.4 to 3.2?

I don't know much about overclocking, but a 33% performance OC seems a lot. I'd guess 2.8/3.0 should be more stable. I'm not entirely sure about 3.2 though. You'd have to ask others. (You have the fan for it, I just don't know if the other stuff can take it)

Oh, double check the psu as well... make sure it has enough power to do this.
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2009, 07:24:26 PM »
My motherboard came with software to overclock, that would then change the bios settings and so on, I think. Check your motherboard developer's home page and see if they have any?

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2009, 08:30:49 PM »
My Mobo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131232&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

Hmm the only software I could suggest would be ntune from nvidia which is part of the nvidia control panel that can be added. I have never used it though so don't know how good it is.

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2009, 08:38:32 PM »
My Mobo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131232&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

Hmm the only software I could suggest would be ntune from nvidia which is part of the nvidia control panel that can be added. I have never used it though so don't know how good it is.

Looks like that mobo should have come with precision tweaker 2 software. If you don't have it any more you could probably torrent it or download some other windows based (I'm assuming) programs. I haven't ever used ntune either so I can't comment on it. I used speedfan or softfsb back in the day, but I have no idea if they support your mobo.

I highly suggest you just do it via your bios though. Some software shows different numbers than your bios and it can be a hassle. Oh, and if its your first time, please read a guide or something before you dive into it.

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2009, 08:57:48 PM »
My Mobo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131232&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

Hmm the only software I could suggest would be ntune from nvidia which is part of the nvidia control panel that can be added. I have never used it though so don't know how good it is.

Looks like that mobo should have come with precision tweaker 2 software. If you don't have it any more you could probably torrent it or download some other windows based (I'm assuming) programs. I haven't ever used ntune either so I can't comment on it. I used speedfan or softfsb back in the day, but I have no idea if they support your mobo.

I highly suggest you just do it via your bios though. Some software shows different numbers than your bios and it can be a hassle. Oh, and if its your first time, please read a guide or something before you dive into it.
I'll do the bios. Other than changing the clock speed on the CPU, do I have to touch anything else?! ...


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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2009, 09:01:26 PM »
My Mobo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131232&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

Hmm the only software I could suggest would be ntune from nvidia which is part of the nvidia control panel that can be added. I have never used it though so don't know how good it is.

Looks like that mobo should have come with precision tweaker 2 software. If you don't have it any more you could probably torrent it or download some other windows based (I'm assuming) programs. I haven't ever used ntune either so I can't comment on it. I used speedfan or softfsb back in the day, but I have no idea if they support your mobo.

I highly suggest you just do it via your bios though. Some software shows different numbers than your bios and it can be a hassle. Oh, and if its your first time, please read a guide or something before you dive into it.
I'll do the bios. Other than changing the clock speed on the CPU, do I have to touch anything else?! ...

You don't have to... but afaik, you rarely touch more than the clock bus anyways...
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2009, 09:25:06 PM »
Just a quick note, be careful with overclocking anything unless you're 100% it won't cause any problems.. One guy said to me that it was all right to do [this] so the CPU would be able to perform with [that] and that resulted in a black screen in which I then had manually reset the BIOS. Truth be told I didn't know I could reset the BIOS so I thought I had just fried my computer... so, yeah, be careful...

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2009, 10:10:55 PM »
My Mobo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131232&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

Hmm the only software I could suggest would be ntune from nvidia which is part of the nvidia control panel that can be added. I have never used it though so don't know how good it is.

Looks like that mobo should have come with precision tweaker 2 software. If you don't have it any more you could probably torrent it or download some other windows based (I'm assuming) programs. I haven't ever used ntune either so I can't comment on it. I used speedfan or softfsb back in the day, but I have no idea if they support your mobo.

I highly suggest you just do it via your bios though. Some software shows different numbers than your bios and it can be a hassle. Oh, and if its your first time, please read a guide or something before you dive into it.
I'll do the bios. Other than changing the clock speed on the CPU, do I have to touch anything else?! ...

You don't have to... but afaik, you rarely touch more than the clock bus anyways...

For that kind of overclock you're going to need to do quite a bit. At the very least you'll need to adjust memory timings, memory voltages, and CPU voltages (Vcore, I think?) I'd try to cover most of it myself, but that would just be way too much to cover.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2057083

That should cover everything you'll need to know for overclocking.

The basics of overclocking are essentially this: Slightly overclock, check for stability, repeat until unstable. Increase voltage. Slightly overclock, check for stability, repeat until unstable. Increase voltage. Continue doing this until your desired overclock speed or you're unable to continue due to instability, temperatures, etc.

You'll probably need to change your memory speeds and timings to keep up with your processor overclock, especially if you're going for a large one like that. Make sure you have a quality PSU that can handle the increased power requirements of an overclock/volt.

Anyways, this is not an easy (actually it's fairly easy once you get the hang of it) or short process. It takes time to check for stability (hours of running prime 95 and other programs), and skipping these steps may prove fatal to your processor. However if you follow the general guidelines of overclocking you should be ok. I can't stress enough that it's important to not just take someone elses overclock settings and use them, no one chip is the same. With all that being said, if you need any help feel free to ask. Good luck on getting your desired overclock, and if you do post your results. The Q6600 is usually a great processor for overclocking, so I'm interested to see what you can get on it.

Edit: About that fan, it looks good. I'd have to do some research to really find out. The most important thing is to make sure you apply the thermal paste correctly.

Edit2: Shouldn't you just encode a workraw to time on? Using flac audio/whatever video bit rate you have seems a bit much for timing. Then you shouldn't run into any issues with skipping at all.
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2009, 11:16:23 PM »
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Edit2: Shouldn't you just encode a workraw to time on? Using flac audio/whatever video bit rate you have seems a bit much for timing. Then you shouldn't run into any issues with skipping at all.

workraw?


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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2009, 11:22:14 PM »
I personally would think that 2.8 is fully stable for that processor. 3.0 and 3.2 are pushing it a little though.
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2009, 12:57:20 AM »
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Edit2: Shouldn't you just encode a workraw to time on? Using flac audio/whatever video bit rate you have seems a bit much for timing. Then you shouldn't run into any issues with skipping at all.

workraw?
a fast encode from the same source with a very limited bitrate. after all you don't need to watch the video in HD to time the lines right.

imo overclocking is just silly - doesn't give you any noticeable performance boost anyway.

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2009, 01:28:07 AM »
imo overclocking is just silly - doesn't give you any noticeable performance boost anyway.

My E6400 stutters and lags occasionally when I try to play 1080p at stock speeds, however it's perfectly fine overclocked at 3.0Ghz. To say it does nothing noticeable is moronic.


As far as overclocking goes, I have an E6400 2.0Ghz clocked at 3.0Ghz on air for about 2 years now. Temps are fine. I don't know how well the Q6400 clocks but the core 2 quad and core 2 duo seem to be decent overclocking chips compared with prescott and older netburst chips.

You might have better luck getting tips from Overclock.net though. I used to hang out there and they usually know what they're talking about.