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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2009, 01:51:11 AM »
Learn to make workraw.

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2009, 02:25:12 AM »
i doubt your cpu is running with some random fan with that kind of overclocking - if you had invested that money into a better cpu right at the start you would have saved yourself time, some cents on the electric bill and a possible shortened lifetime of your cpu.
thus overclocking is silly as there is no actual saving involved.
boosting your cpu frequency by 50% doesn't result in a 50% faster cpu, much less a 50% faster system. the strain you put on your cpu for that little benefit is not worth it imo. additionally not every cpu is even capable of beeing overclocked that far with standard cooling - the Conroes (like your E6400) are doing a good job at it because they share the same base of a broad frequency spectrum.

the comparisons "doesn't work @ stock" vs. "works perfectly @ overclock" are from my experience more placebo than actual improvement.
i got no problem running 2 1080p softsubbed karaokes perfectly fine at 2.6Ghz stock - adding a third one results in some framedrops (still no audio lag) - would i be able to run 2 more overclocking my cpu to 3Ghz? (after all, it seems like at 2.1Ghz you can't play even a single encode...).
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2009, 02:43:57 AM »
i doubt your cpu is running with some random fan with that kind of overclocking
It's not. I bought a nice $35 fan from microcenter.

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if you had invested that money into a better cpu right at the start you would have saved yourself time
No I wouldn't have. At the time, the next step up was $60 more for a 2.4Ghz. I spent $35 for a fan, and have been using a chip at speeds that was triple the price I paid at the time. You are incorrect. I've definitely got my money's worth. Much more actually, as it's nearing upgrade time again.

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thus overclocking is silly as there is no actual saving involved.
Sure there is. It depends on what chip you buy and what you expect to get out of it, and at what price. You're a moron if you think otherwise.

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boosting your cpu frequency by 50% doesn't result in a 50% faster cpu
I don't think anyone claimed that. I got enough to allow me to watch 1080p out of it. If it was only .01 percent, it's still worth it in my eyes.



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the comparisons "doesn't work @ stock" vs. "works perfectly @ overclock" are from my experience more placebo than actual improvement.

Cool. Believe whatever you want guy. I'm just taking from my real world experiences to formulate my opinion. I suggest going to overclock.net, posting that exact post and then come back here and link me to the replies. I'm no expert on overclocking, but I'm pretty sure they'd laugh in your face.

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2009, 02:53:03 AM »
because the guys at overclock.net are completly unbiased - oh, wait... :P

anyway, back on-topic

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2009, 03:03:13 AM »
Learn to make workraw.

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2009, 03:26:18 AM »
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Edit2: Shouldn't you just encode a workraw to time on? Using flac audio/whatever video bit rate you have seems a bit much for timing. Then you shouldn't run into any issues with skipping at all.

workraw?
a fast encode from the same source with a very limited bitrate. after all you don't need to watch the video in HD to time the lines right.

imo overclocking is just silly - doesn't give you any noticeable performance boost anyway.

Learn to make workraw.

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Thread should have ended here.

With this ... make it more clear to me. Where do you get this workraw? I checked Aegisub and there is no option for Workraw.


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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2009, 05:02:38 AM »
You just encode the video you're working on.. at a lower bit rate.

Edit: Basically.. encode the video at a lower resolution (or if you need to typeset signs, at the normal res, but lower the bit rate a lot) and the audio at a lower bit rate. There's absolutely zero reason for it to be flac at this point. Time/TS off of that encode.
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2009, 05:23:06 AM »
Learn to make workraw.

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2009, 12:04:35 PM »
... make it more clear to me. Where do you get this workraw? I checked Aegisub and there is no option for Workraw.
download megui, install, open
as you have most likely not encoded the files yourself (so you don't own the source) load your raws into it, check a LQ video presetting (it doesn't really matter which one as long as it is 1pass with the same framerate as the source, the same resolution (if you want to typset signs) and a bitrate as low as 1k for 1080p) and something like 128-mp3 as the audio setting.
encode, time, ???, profit.

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2009, 12:23:47 PM »
Encode a small XviD/whatever version of the file for you to time to.

You don't write drafts of letters on good quality paper.

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2009, 02:32:18 PM »
... make it more clear to me. Where do you get this workraw? I checked Aegisub and there is no option for Workraw.
download megui, install, open
as you have most likely not encoded the files yourself (so you don't own the source) load your raws into it, check a LQ video presetting (it doesn't really matter which one as long as it is 1pass with the same framerate as the source, the same resolution (if you want to typset signs) and a bitrate as low as 1k for 1080p) and something like 128-mp3 as the audio setting.
encode, time, ???, profit.
Yea, already have it and know how to do it.

Encode a small XviD/whatever version of the file for you to time to.

You don't write drafts of letters on good quality paper.
It makes more sense to do that. Thanks, people. If I can just have this thread open for a bit longer for overclocking. I have a feeling you want to lock this thread very badly, Psyren >_<! You can do that, just let me do the overclocking part first! It should be done today.


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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2009, 03:14:23 PM »
Why overclock?
With graphic cards that are blazing fast, DDR3 memory that is also blazing fast, and SSD that makes a Ferrari look slow,
the CPU won't even need to handle much work.

And encoding a blu-Rei video at 720p or 1080p with very high bitrates at less than 1 frame per second is expected, it takes patience( a lot of it).
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2009, 03:31:04 PM »
Why overclock?
With graphic cards that are blazing fast, DDR3 memory that is also blazing fast, and SSD that makes a Ferrari look slow,
the CPU won't even need to handle much work.

And encoding a blu-Rei video at 720p or 1080p with very high bitrates at less than 1 frame per second is expected, it takes patience( a lot of it).
Actually, if other people aren't having problems playing 1080p videos from THORA and I do (skipping, sound glitches) then 1. Clean the fans, and 2. Overclock to 3.0 (not 3.2 anymore). 2.4 is each CPU running at that. @ 3.0 you have each CPU running at that speed ... I'll take the 3.0 and see how it goes. Everything I bought is there to be overclocked and the Mobo can do it all. I don't wanna brag or jinx myself. I'm gonna try it and see how it goes. I don't mind the X amount of time it takes to encode to be honest. I do mind the glitches and skips ...


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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2009, 03:45:43 PM »
I have a quad core at 1.8 GHz that runs 1080 encodes flawlessly with CoreAVC (it really does make the difference). I don't really see the need for overclocking, but go for it if you really feel like experimenting. The gains are rather modest unless you redline the hardware (and I don't want to be buying any more parts than I have to).

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2009, 04:02:43 PM »
I have a quad core at 1.8 GHz that runs 1080 encodes flawlessly with CoreAVC (it really does make the difference). I don't really see the need for overclocking, but go for it if you really feel like experimenting. The gains are rather modest unless you redline the hardware (and I don't want to be buying any more parts than I have to).

I also use CoreAVC. Then again my PC is overclocked too. Redlined I guess, E6400 2.0Ghz to 3.0Ghz, but the risks are minimal as long as temps are within range. Been running this chip for 2 years now.

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2009, 04:47:31 PM »
My lil clugger that I put in my living room only has a 1.6GHz Pentium Dual Core and it definitely plays THORA's 1080p smoothly, usually with less than 20 frame drops in those less than 30 minutes episodes, no is that smooth or what.
Oh, and CoreAVC really is more efficient, try it and you'll know.
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2009, 06:30:08 PM »
My lil clugger that I put in my living room only has a 1.6GHz Pentium Dual Core and it definitely plays THORA's 1080p smoothly, usually with less than 20 frame drops in those less than 30 minutes episodes, no is that smooth or what.
Oh, and CoreAVC really is more efficient, try it and you'll know.
http://www.coreavc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=4&id=21&Itemid=59

lol, they want money? sure. lets see .....

Edit -- Works like a charm. <3. I got everything I need, Psyren, shut down this thread! Nuke it >_<! If you want.
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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2009, 07:39:26 PM »
http://www.coreavc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=4&id=21&Itemid=59

lol, they want money? sure. lets see .....

Edit -- Works like a charm. <3. I got everything I need, Psyren, shut down this thread! Nuke it >_<! If you want.
I thought you read psyren's guide?

It's true that CoreAVC is very efficient but I read somewhere that the it also reduces image quality.

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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2009, 07:47:36 PM »
http://www.coreavc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=4&id=21&Itemid=59

lol, they want money? sure. lets see .....

Edit -- Works like a charm. <3. I got everything I need, Psyren, shut down this thread! Nuke it >_<! If you want.
I thought you read psyren's guide?

It's true that CoreAVC is very efficient but I read somewhere that the it also reduces image quality.
I did, I thought it was for a low shitty computers. Also, another problem I found is that the MPC is so fucking outdated and there is a newer version of it that was released a week ago!. I had problems with skips and glitches. I just loaded the worst file I had, which was White Album 1080p/flac by THORA and now it's playing like a charm. Fixed FPS around 23.98ish! I'm so happy, so freaking happy! WOOT!

The CCCP version is oudated and they haven't updated it in a long time. Well, that solves my problem. I also removed CCCP since I have CoreAVC. I'm done ranting, just very happy I'm playing anime on my HDTV while surfing/moving files.


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Re: Aegisub & Blu-ray & Overclocking CPU
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2009, 10:14:40 PM »
See?
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