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Offline bork

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getting around throttling
« on: September 11, 2009, 05:28:14 PM »
There is now a way to get around some of the throttling that is being imposed by some ISP's (comcast).

Now using the uTorrent 1.8.4 (beta) client.  Once you have it installed go to:

Preferences - Advanced
set bt.transp_dispositi on to 10.

This will force uTorrent to use only the uTP UDP protocol.

The peers I have from Comcast networks went from about 27kB/s to 150+kB/s.
 

If you do not feel comfortable in doing things that you do not understand – don’t.  You will still get benefits from this from those who do.  Causing the use of UDP from one client results in the use of it from the other for that peer pairing.  You will see the higher rates for both up and down to those with the change.

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Some extra info to why it works.

uTorrent will normal will use TCP for its connections.  TCP is a connection  type of protcol that has things like syn - reset - close.  The way some throttling works is for the ISP to forges a packet that will close TCP connection.

UDP is a connectionless protcol, it does not have a concept of open or close in it.   By forcing uTorrent to use UDP only, the ISP can not easily forge a packet resulting in closing a connection.
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Re: getting around throttling
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2009, 06:05:33 PM »
There is now a way to get around some of the throttling that is being imposed by some ISP's (comcast).

Now using the uTorrent 1.8.4 (beta) client.  Once you have it installed go to:

Preferences - Advanced
set bt.transp_dispositi on to 10.

This will force uTorrent to use only the uTP UDP protocol.

The peers I have from Comcast networks went from about 27kB/s to 150+kB/s.
 
---

Some extra info to why it works.

uTorrent will normal will use TCP for its connections.  TCP is a connection  type of protcol that has things like syn - reset - close.  The way some throttling works is for the ISP to forges a packet that will close TCP connection.

UDP is a connectionless protcol, it does not have a concept of open or close in it.   By forcing uTorrent to use UDP only, the ISP can not easily forge a packet resulting in closing a connection.
You have residental or you have business? I have a T1-2 (building connection, I use this mainly to upload) and business tier 3 and I have been maxing out my comcast connection like a mofo. They don't restrict Business Connections, unlimited bandwidth and all ports open. Not bad, just the price is a bit heapy. But the speed is ridiculously awesome.

I'll do what you said anyways, I wanna see if it would improve uTorrents crappy upload speeds. I use Vuze to upload stuff.


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Re: getting around throttling
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2009, 07:59:31 PM »
Actually, I've found more issues with my speeds on uTorrent than Vuze. (Beyond the silly memory use issue which isn't even an issue unless your computer is a piece)

Vuze can grab me faster speeds with 4+ torrents. No matter how many torrents I have open, I get my "max" of 60kb/s upload. (Dl doesn't seem to have an issue) However, with 4 or more open in utorrent, I get each of them running at 2-6kb/s or about 30. Imo, it's not a connection issue for myself, but a software issue. I'm considering going back to vuze when I reinstall windows 7.
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Re: getting around throttling
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 08:41:13 PM »
Actually, I've found more issues with my speeds on uTorrent than Vuze. (Beyond the silly memory use issue which isn't even an issue unless your computer is a piece)

Vuze can grab me faster speeds with 4+ torrents. No matter how many torrents I have open, I get my "max" of 60kb/s upload. (Dl doesn't seem to have an issue) However, with 4 or more open in utorrent, I get each of them running at 2-6kb/s or about 30. Imo, it's not a connection issue for myself, but a software issue. I'm considering going back to vuze when I reinstall windows 7.
I seriously thought it was me. Thanks for clarifying it. I've been uploading like a mad-man on Vuze ever leaving uTorrent. I've had trouble the past week to two weeks with 3 torrents or so I downloaded from BakaBT and couple others from somewhere else on uTorrent to seed. I was frustrated as hell. I usually leave my ratio 2-6x (sometimes more if I'm kind enough  :D) the amount I downloaded and just seeing the struggle to upload this past two weeks made me cry ... -sniffs-.

I'm also considering going back on Vuze and tossing uTorrent to the side. I wish there was a lightware Vuze without all that HD junk. I just need to use it for torrents, not to see adversting stuff and HD streaming and all that junk.


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Re: getting around throttling
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2009, 10:07:41 PM »
There IS a lightweight Vuze, actually. rather a modified Vuze... only torrent feature is on it. its not an official version. I used to have it, but lost it.

 If anyone knows what im talking about share

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Re: getting around throttling
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2009, 10:51:39 PM »
Hm, I went from horrible upload speeds in Vuze that choked my connection to over five times the upload speed with no impact on my connection in uTorrent. Weird that some people are seeing the opposite.

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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2009, 11:51:16 PM »
Hm, I went from horrible upload speeds in Vuze that choked my connection to over five times the upload speed with no impact on my connection in uTorrent. Weird that some people are seeing the opposite.
I'm thinking it's our ISP probably. Because he and I use comcast connections. What do you use?


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Re: getting around throttling
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2009, 12:17:27 AM »
I'm thinking it's our ISP probably. Because he and I use comcast connections. What do you use?
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Re: getting around throttling
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2009, 04:37:24 AM »
I use Shaw in Canada...

But for basic downloads, utorrent is slightly faster. But as a whole with more than 2-3 torrents, it begins to break down and fall apart.

uTorrent is way better for maybe 1-2 simultaneous torrents. Vuze is better for multi-tasking. (IMO)
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Re: getting around throttling
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2009, 05:14:55 AM »
I started having problems with Vuze that is why I went threw switching all the way to uTorrent, so far I notice the only time I have a connection choke is when I have more then 5 downloads going, upload I don't see much choke, though I only got a 250 up line so it I try to keep my uploads between 5 and 10 though lately I have been way above that sitting at around 20 though normally only with 4 or 5 active at a time with users.
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