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Higurashi no Naku Koro ni / When They Cry
Havoc10K:
Wow, you must be super smart person to know that much from watching over and over the episodes without bothering to watch second season to know more in the easier way. If you're so smart why do you bother watching entire seasons anyways ? wouldn't it be easier to watch first and last episode's ?
Yes, I call BS on you knowing everything from first season only.
undetz:
Lose the argument, accuse other person of lying, distort and exaggerate their claims. And you were doing so well lately, Havoc, are you really going to backslide into your former behaviour?
Now, about your points, in order:
--- Quote ---Wow, you must be super smart person to know that much from watching over and over the episodes...
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Yes, I am pretty smart, I know that myself. I'm also pretty good at noticing hints and foreshadowing in TV shows and at drawing the right conclusions from them.
--- Quote ---...without bothering to watch second season to know more in the easier way...
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I bothered watching Higu-kai because I hoped it would replicate the good things from Higu-ni, I was disappointed when it turned out to be as bland as it is. "Knowing more" is not my motivation, being entertained is. Higu-ni works as excellently as it does because it shows a lot and explains nearly nothing. It leaves room for speculation and lets the viewer draw conclusions for themself. Higu-kai otoh explains everything it shows. In its own right it's an average show, but compared to Higu-ni it treats the viewer as a child and the inevitable comparison makes it especially grating, but I mentioned this before so I'll just link to the post again.
--- Quote ---...If you're so smart why do you bother watching entire seasons anyways ? wouldn't it be easier to watch first and last episode's ?
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Burn, straw man! Burn!
--- Quote ---Yes, I call BS on you knowing everything from first season only.
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If you can point out where I claimed to know "everything" you might have a reason call BS, but I never did. I did say that Higu-kai does not "[reveal] anything new or surprising". I stand by that. What's more, I challenge you to point out some genuinely new, surprising twist in Higu-kai. The emphasis is on 'surprising'. As I stated before, Miyo's backstory was new, but so clichéd and typical of Japanese popular culture that it fails the second, more important, criterion 'surprising'.
Put simply: Higu-kai never made me think "So that's how it was! I never saw that coming" or even "Damn, I was dead wrong about that, but it makes sense this way". That's why I say it fails as a season that supposedly provides answers to the questions that were intentionally left open in Higu-ni. Metaphorically put it regurgitates instead of providing a new meal.
Havoc10K:
--- Quote from: undetz on September 19, 2011, 09:17:07 PM ---You're not paying attention to what I write. Please read it more carefully in the future before you make even more of a fool of yourself by telling me things I wrote in the post just before your own.
As for her motivation: It was the most cliché Japanese thing imaginable and not deserving of being called a plot twist or in any way surprising.
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~Desu
This alone can be interpreted as you knew exactly what was going on.
undetz:
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on September 20, 2011, 11:43:01 AM ---
--- Quote from: undetz on September 19, 2011, 09:17:07 PM ---You're not paying attention to what I write. Please read it more carefully in the future before you make even more of a fool of yourself by telling me things I wrote in the post just before your own.
As for her motivation: It was the most cliché Japanese thing imaginable and not deserving of being called a plot twist or in any way surprising.
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~Desu
This alone can be interpreted as you knew exactly what was going on.
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Then I can only say that your interpretation of it is not the intended meaning. Just go with the literal meaning of it instead. Namely: Miyo's motivation which was revealed in Higu-kai is so clichéd and typical of Japanese popular culture that it does not deserve being called a plot twist or in any way surprising.
Havoc10K:
Explain to me how was it a plot twist in the first place ?
Her motivation was hinted in the Season 1, and only simply explained in season 2.
If you actually did bother to read what was several times been posted in this topic, Season one is called Questions, while Season two is called Answers. While i pointed it out many times to you in other threads, if you let yourself be guided by clishe'd things there is really nothing for you to watch any more and you should stop watching anime altogether. If you care about tv tropes and cliche you should stop watching anything in TV actually, cuz everything has been overused several times and the only thing that changes is characters and setting.
I advise you to stop your goose chase now.
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