Higurashi no Naku Koro ni / When They Cry

[Havoc10K]

as far as violence and gore and blood, yes, S1 was better in that matter, but only because it was suppose to cause a lot of questions, wich were answered in the S2.

my favorite scene aside the one with Rena vs Keichi on the roof, was

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when Rika was captured by Shion and tried to inject her with a syrengie, but failed and Shion injected it into Rika, and she took that big knife and stabber her own neck to kill herself before Shion started torturing her, after that when Satoko cried and stopped and acted bravely for her brothers memory and Shion stabbed her hands off while Mion had to listen to it all and went shocked with fear, this episode was both very dramatic and touching.

l really liked the way the kids behaved while terrified, not like in most anime when the fear was just an expression, here it was purely depicted not as fear but something much worse.

[kenshin-dono]

lol wow glad you guys got a kick outa that blog post. Ya i like how its nominated for best conservative blog when they obviously do no fact checking whatsoever. Par for the course i supose.

hey Zalis, maybe your group could use the "a badass evil criminal mastermind who uploads illicit files to clandestine websites to corrupt millions of American children." tagline under your logo ;P lol

tnx for the info btw. So i guess there were slight edits to the tv series that should be aparant in the Ayu release since they used that for the first half. Ill probably just check the ED rips then and then snag the DVD release if i enjoy it and then d.load the second season

actually a couple questions about that.. how does it break down? i guess Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai  is season 2 correct?  then where does Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei that i see in OVA form up on ADB fit in? should watching order go when they cry 1 > Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai (whats that kai translate to anyway?) > then Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei (again, whats the rei mean?)OVA last?

i also notice an aparant 3rd one going on right now
http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=6051
but its name is totally different
Umineko no Naku Koro ni and the note specifically mentions that this ones being edited

other than the watch order, any suggestions on fansub groups for the 2nd series and the OAV? they're not here on bakabt. The two groups i see, WinD and Hauu, i have never heard of. And a quick preliminary batch search didn't even bring upt he hauu release

same for the OAV, although it looks like on that one the only group to finish it is ASR kuro which is a speedsubber i believe

I agree that the majority of Japanese anime and manga contain immoral content, but there are exceptions, such as Bible Black, an anime that promotes a favorable view of Christianity.

[Ed Note: We will look into that. Thank you.]

I snorted really loudly when I read that.

LOL! i didn't finish it or read the comments, that is HILARIOUS. I hope they actually checked into that, though i doubt it since that would involve actual journalism and work. Thumbs up to the poster who put that up

[Zalis116]

actually a couple questions about that.. how does it break down? i guess Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai  is season 2 correct?  then where does Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei that i see in OVA form up on ADB fit in? should watching order go when they cry 1 > Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai (whats that kai translate to anyway?) > then Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei (again, whats the rei mean?)OVA last?

other than the watch order, any suggestions on fansub groups for the 2nd series and the OAV? they're not here on bakabt. The two groups i see, WinD and Hauu, i have never heard of. And a quick preliminary batch search didn't even bring upt he hauu release

same for the OAV, although it looks like on that one the only group to finish it is ASR kuro which is a speedsubber i believe

礼 = salute/bow/thanks/ceremony. Rei seems to be set after Kai, so watch that last. Higurashi Kai is on BBT from Hauu~, and I have no qualms about recommending Hauu's release over the others. Only drawback to Hauu's is that the TV raws weren't very good, but they did the best they could with the source materials. Hauu may be some other group in disguise.

WinD's releases of the earlier Higurashi seasons maybe aren't so great, but their releases of Rei are just fine. DL the first 4 eps of Rei from WinD and wait for them to finish the last one.

[Havoc10K]

Rei is composed of 3 arcs, all 3 arcs are alternate worlds. but they are great alltogether.

[kenshin-dono]

thanks. Hmm so since the first season was edited on tv, isn't Kai going to be edited too, regardless of if i get the hauu or WinD ones? or was that season not edited? if so are there any groups that did DVD versions? I really hate watching cut stuff.

gotcha on the Rei one. At least i dont gotta worry bout edits on that since they're OAV's

hmm Rei is 3 seperate arcs? isn't it only 5 epps? how do you squeeze 3 story arcs in 5 epps?

[Havoc10K]

the ones on BBT arent edited.

[Asarta]

LOL OMG! i was doing a google search for Higurashi and uncut because i heard it got censored because of its violence and came across this :

http://blogs4brownback.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/anime-encourages-murder/

it was a really sad/funny read. Evidently this series is based on a murder simulation! *gasp* i guess in the same regard all FPS's on xbox are shooter simulations, or GTA is a prostitute beating simulation!

my favorite line was
"It can take months for a legitimate American company to clean up and redub offensive raw anime into a form more suitable for western audiences. But anime fans want “pure” and uncut material that would otherwise never be allowed to be viewed outside of the perverted otaku subculture in Japan."

OH NOES OUR POOR AMERICAN PSYCHIES! thank you mr senator for protecting the american way of ignorance and censorship!

good lord, i actually couldn't finish it all, if someone can more power to you.

annnnyywayyy. after that i couldn't really keep looking. I was wondering if this show WAS edited for the TV release? Im sure the exiled destiny dvd one is uncut, but i jsut wanted to be clear on whether or not the AYU one is uncut as well. Hell, did they even censor the TV version? I actually found out this is avalible here in the states (first season at least i think) and plan on snagging it if its decent. Im assuming the American DVD release is uncut? I'm guessing thats what the exiled destiny rips are

Wow, I want to believe that blog article is an extremely elaborate troll. Sadly, I know it's not, thanks to the "nominated for best conservative blog" bit  But as a fansubber, I have to feel flattered by its describing me as "a badass evil criminal mastermind who uploads illicit files to clandestine websites to corrupt millions of American children." It sure beats the truth, "unemployed loser with no life who spends hours fixing frame-timing errors for subtitles on magical girl anime that no more than 2000 people will download." So suffice to say, that blog entry is a load of BS that knows jack shit about the anime industry in America or anywhere else. I've never heard anything about the US DVD release being edited/censored in any way, so you can assume that the E-D rips are also uncut. Both Triad and Ayu used TV source for the first half of the series, and DVD source for the second half. I've only seen the Triad version, but I honestly didn't see any cuts that seriously ruined anything. Maybe sometimes you get black blood instead of red, or gruesome scenes that get a little shadowed out. It's been awhile, but I can't even recall any scenes that jumped out and made me think, "Omg it's censored!"  Besides, violence and gore are sometimes just as good or better when implied than when actually shown.

HAHA, been up for hours find gem like this. Funny that most of western Side of the world Blame everything but the Parents and children at fault. Oh he shot 20 high school children because he played Gta 4 or Manhunt or even better blame it on Anime because he watched, when they cry higurashi, or Ichi the Killer im going to go and brutalise some poor people, or they told me to do it, or ive got deep seeded issues so does everybody on this planet some way or another no excuse to kill innocent people. All right to Carpet Bomb innocent people in other countries that's fine, but as soon as one headcase decides to shoot up a school they all jump on the Its Anime Fault or Games Bandwagon F**king Lame. Sorry to go off topic 

[Havoc10K]

l'd like to ask to stay on topic.

but the edited op in s2 was only about rena holding a hatchet, it was replaced in tv version with a bus ;]

[Havoc10K]

started watching it again, and have to say it, knowing the whole story by now l can see how well every piece of this show is so well and awesomely put together, unlike Umineko (so far it's more hectic than Osaka making a funny story (AD)) Higurashi is simply Brilliant, l promote it to my fav tops along with FSN, S&W/2, Kanokon, now Higurashi joins that great 3 shows and will now together with the 3 bring down divine punishment on all of us little smart asses watching every nice anime there is in existance :]

[kenshin-dono]

well i tried posting this in a new thread but it got locked for some reason. The whole reason i started a new thread was because this wasn't about discussing the plot, nor was it ONLY about NI, it covers the placement and questions about edits/versions of the rest of the series, kai, rei and where umineko fits in. In order to get the best possible response i would have had to post in like 3 different existing topics!  I guess i'll hope i get answers in justthis thread then

heres the post i guess. the links built in to the episodes arent working because i cant modify it to copy/paste and dont feel like manually retyping it all:

so im downloading this series right now after it being recomended and noticing the first season is out here in the states..  In another thread i asked about it briefly and got some general info.

i believe this is the proper order for the series correct?:

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
then
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai
and i guess the 3rd part is an OAV called
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei

is that right? and if it is where the hell does
Umineko no Naku Koro ni fit in? i heard it was related somehow. Is it a spinoff, or continuation, or what?  I heard this has been Horribly edited on TV broadcast. I mean they suposedly flat out put huge ugly Mosaics over the bodies o_O
 i also found this here  http://bakabt.me/torrent/130698/Higurashi_no_Naku_Koro_ni_Nekogoroshi-hen_(Special)_Hauu.html but its not mentioned anywhere else. Is that something seperate from the first season?

im looking for some clarification on how they all tie together/if i have the order right. Also, if theres any extra specials or anything im missing. I heard of some DVD speciall s for Kai but dont see them on the torrent here

anyway right now im downloading the exiled destiny version for season one, called: When They Cry / Higurashi (Higurashi no Naku Koro ni). Snaggin it from a different tracker right now than bakabt but it seems to be the same as the one listed here.
oro_ni)_Exiled-Destiny.html" target="_blank">http://bakabt.me/torrent/142808/When_They_Cry_-_Higurashi_(Higurashi_no_Naku_K oro_ni)_Exiled-Destiny.html
I dont care about dual audio but these seem to be the only ones im sure are the DVD versions and hence the uncut versions
and thats my 2nd major question. Censorship. I know the first season had some censorship. How about Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai? Was that cut too? Im asking because it appears the version for Kai listed here
http://bakabt.me/torrent/141640/Higurashi_no_Naku_Koro_ni_Kai_Hauu.html
is the Hauu realease which seems is the tv release, and hence censored isn't it? the comments mention the win d version possibly being a DVD rip but i cant find an confirmation on that. Which group did the 2nd season from DVD rips? I dont want a cut version. this is probably one of my more important questions: trying to find out if theres a DVD rip/uncut version out there, Or is the 2nd season just uncut from tv airing? I know for sure the first was, though im not positive about the 2nd

finally about Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei.. its an OAV that i guess is the 3rd part to the series. I havent really read what its about because im avoiding spoilers. but is it a follow up, or a prequal kinda thing? This ones an OAv so i dont have to worry about it being cut/uncut but it doesn't seem to be FINISHED! WinD seems to have up to episode 4 and then nothing. Its listed as stalled and i see no info on it on their website. Hell its not even listed on their project page. What happened? will they ever finish it? did some other group sub the last one? Its gonna suck to get to the end and not have that 5th episode o_O

oh ya one final thing.. what the hells the title translate into? they have have
Higurashi no Naku Koro as the start with ni, kai, then rei as part 1, 2, 3, i guess. Whats the Higurashi no Naku Koro tranlate too? im confused because its isted as 'when the cicadas cry' most places but in America its called 'When they cry' which is right? and what do teh ni, kai, rei refer to, are they chracters? (i think ni is 2 or something, isn't it?) its just confusing

especially when you put Umineko no Naku Koro ni in there.. isn't Umineko sea cat or something? what the hecks that translate too, theres no alternate listing on ADB =P

hope someone can clear this up. I hear this series is a real mind screw so id like to get the right versions to watch/order (i can not stand censored stuff). Its probably gonna be confusing enough as is lol

got a cold now so wont be starting something i have to think about right now. At the moment im finishing up the thoroughly average but amusing Karin =P But id like to get them all d.loaded and ready for later

[Lupin]

well i tried posting this in a new thread but it got locked for some reason. The whole reason i started a new thread was because this wasn't about discussing the plot, nor was it ONLY about NI, it covers the placement and questions about edits/versions of the rest of the series, kai, rei and where umineko fits in. In order to get the best possible response i would have had to post in like 3 different existing topics!  I guess i'll hope i get answers in justthis thread then

Existing threads do not only talk about plot. It can talk about anything related to the topic. This topic's title clearly says "When They Cry". The whole Higurashi series (including Kai and Rei) as well as umineko are part of the "When They Cry" series of visual novels.

[Havoc10K]

Umineko and Higurashi are not related otehr than the "When they cry" addition to the title, the genre is pretty muc murder mystery but it's completely unrelated Lupin.

[kenshin-dono]

saw your reply about the order in the other thread havoc, tnx. so i know what order the series goes in but still need answers to the rest of the questions if anyone can oblige

and actually there are other threads about rei and the like around here. the title of this one only specifies the FIRST series and thats all i saw being discussed here earlier (didn't click the spoilers)

[Havoc10K]

PM me your questions, l'll try to answer them to the best of my ability.

[Havoc10K]

dicided to make a small album of what seemed to me as best Renas pics on the web, l really like them.

and l like Rena a lot, shes so mature and her character is probably the best developed one in the show right next to Keichi

Rena's Photo Album

[Havoc10K]

this is what l loved about Rena a lot for in Higurashi, what she did for Rika in ep 4 of Rei series.

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in that chapter around near the end, rika told every one what happaned so to cheer her up Rena did something unusual, well she does it every now and then, it's her trait that l like so much (the unusual things l mean)

She asked Mion to give her a candy.
then she forwarded her closed hands to Rika and made her choose one hand, Rika chose the one with a candy and was really happy, and Rena asked why shes so happy? opened her other hand where there were 2 candies, and said, just now you wondered how happy you would be wit h2 candy but you are happy with one right ? thats because sometimes having less happiness is better than havin a lot of happiness, while you have one candy you can cherish the taste longer, while you had 2 candies the first one wouldn't taste as well as the second.

l think and l always did think about Rena as an unuasually smart girl, she was always hiding her treasures of knowledge, if she became in the future the village leader it would greatly prosper, in that l will always like Rena the most for Higurashi, Rika is great too, but shes an adult trapped in a body of a small girl trying only to live past the Festival days, she has no other knowledge but is overly mature, and being constatly trapped in a small body for ages she didn't grow much mentally.

both of them have my full support but Rena is simply the best.

[kenshin-dono]

so does anyone know if there were ever any DVD rips of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai? I got the DVD rips of season 1, but have yet to find any of season 2 so i havent d.loaded it yet =( although im not sure how censored s2 was in the fist place, im sure there was some and i pretty much never d.load cut stuff, id like to get it soon.

[Havoc10K]

so does anyone know if there were ever any DVD rips of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai? I got the DVD rips of season 1, but have yet to find any of season 2 so i havent d.loaded it yet =( although im not sure how censored s2 was in the fist place, im sure there was some and i pretty much never d.load cut stuff, id like to get it soon.

from what l can see on TT none of the groups did ALL eps, tehre are holes in the series, Wind for example did 1-9,19-24 DVD

looks to me none of the groups did the middle of the series.

[kenshin-dono]

so in WinD the ONLY group that did DVD rips period? blea i really have an aversion to d.loading edited crap. Unfortunatly i cant even just d.load part of it and buy the american dvds since it looks like only S1 is out here in the states

my onl option apears to be grab WinD for the start and end then another group for the middle part, but that would give me a semi edited show which i dont want to do. Rats this show may be going to the back burner unless anyone else is aware of any other groups that ripped the DVDs?

[Havoc10K]

there are 3 or 4 groups tha tstarted doing the DVD sets, but none did the middle part, for some reason that is unknown to me.