Author Topic: Higurashi no Naku Koro ni / When They Cry (Read 22066 times)

dbml · « **Reply #60 on:** January 04, 2010, 12:57:27 AM »

Quote from: Monkemon on January 04, 2010, 12:35:55 AM

I can live without seeing a second season and truthfully I read Havoc10k's spoiler above and thats enough for me. I think the entire series would have been best if it had kept itself in a frame of 26-30 episodes but that is just my opinion.

Completely agree. I might have actually been able to finish it, if the entire thing was completed in 26 episodes or so. I still would've hated on it all the same though, regardless

Havoc10K · « **Reply #61 on:** January 04, 2010, 08:50:23 AM »

Quote from: dbml on January 04, 2010, 12:24:35 AM

Aw, did someone just get butthurt because I'm hating on one of their favorite series?

Just as you're allowed to rave about how good the series is, I'm allowed to say how shitty it is. I'm just giving an opposing viewpoint on a clearly well-liked series. People can take what they want from what I say. If they choose to watch it, that's their call. All I can hope is that some people heed my warning and avoid it, so their brain doesn't turn to mush from what they would endure.

It's probably the second worst series I've ever started watching. Props to anyone who finished this crapfest.

hardly, tbh, l'm dissapointed in you, you seemed to me a person who can apreciate a good show that has a long run finale, but you prove one law in your criticism.
If you expect something, you don't get anything from what you recive.

Drew · « **Reply #62 on:** January 05, 2010, 04:58:11 AM »

Don't get put off by the first season. Push through and watch the second season. Really worth it, IMO. Fantastic anime, and the ending couldn't have been better. In the end, everything is explained (even moreso in Rei). Definitely worth the watch.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #63 on:** January 05, 2010, 06:40:17 AM »

actually there are plenty hints in season one, in season two you learn quite a lot about all characters, and REI teaches more about Oyashiro

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this show is defo worth every bit, to make it better, in sales, SD 35K sold, Higurashi 44k sold, ppl arent mistaken (l speak of DVD sets)

this anime isn't my favorite but its defo one of the best for me, maybe the comedy part isn't great, but it fits properly.

Seekr12 · « **Reply #64 on:** January 05, 2010, 07:10:09 AM »

I had a major problem with that show. I hated how at times, there would be cute wacky chibi moments with the characters after we had just seen scenes of intense violence, gore and psychological trauma that would scar us for weeks. I couldn't really get in the mode of "OOOOH LOOK AT THESE CUTE CHARACTERS ARGUING OVER A BENTO BOX!!!" after I had seen someone chopped up, mutilated-etc. The numerous arcs also drove me nuts. Maybe I need to watch the second season-I originally thought it was an attempt to just capitalize on the popularity of the first season, but if it actually explains WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED in the first season I'll give it a watch. However, the series does win the award for the most painful, cringe inducing thing I have ever scene in any entertainment medium:

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Havoc10K · « **Reply #65 on:** January 05, 2010, 07:50:57 AM »

it was meant to be that way, this show is incredible, and the explanation is so simple it actually makes little sense at first but after thinking about it for a while you get the point of how and why things developed that way, second season provides 99% of answers, the missing 1% is in REI, wich is an answer to a different question not asked in the 1 and 2 seasons, howeve, after watching the first season it is recommended to watch the special, it doesn't provide much but it sure is a nice fanservice (Mion in a cowgirl bikini is a must see!)

Drew · « **Reply #66 on:** January 05, 2010, 08:08:36 AM »

Quote from: Seekr12 on January 05, 2010, 07:10:09 AM

I had a major problem with that show. I hated how at times, there would be cute wacky chibi moments with the characters after we had just seen scenes of intense violence, gore and psychological trauma that would scar us for weeks. I couldn't really get in the mode of "OOOOH LOOK AT THESE CUTE CHARACTERS ARGUING OVER A BENTO BOX!!!" after I had seen someone chopped up, mutilated-etc.

Part of what makes it brilliant. If you're unsettled and confused, they did something right.

Quote from: Seekr12 on January 05, 2010, 07:10:09 AM

The numerous arcs also drove me nuts. Maybe I need to watch the second season-I originally thought it was an attempt to just capitalize on the popularity of the first season, but if it actually explains WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED in the first season I'll give it a watch.

It answers almost all of the questions about the first season. Everything has a reason behind it. Multiple arcs included.

Quote from: Seekr12 on January 05, 2010, 07:10:09 AM

However, the series does win the award for the most painful, cringe inducing thing I have ever scene in any entertainment medium:

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The scene where one of the girls (I forget her name at this point) gets her fingernails ripped off. The sound effects were painful. I've seen alot of violence and gore and that stuff doesn't affect me, but that scene sure did.

Yup. Just thinking about it gives me chills.

natures · « **Reply #67 on:** January 05, 2010, 10:49:02 AM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on January 05, 2010, 07:50:57 AM

howeve, after watching the first season it is recommended to watch the special, it doesn't provide much but it sure is a nice fanservice (Mion in a cowgirl bikini is a must see!)

It also gives you a tiny hint about how they'll be dealing with things in the second season.

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Quote from: Drew on January 05, 2010, 08:08:36 AM

Quote from: Seekr12 on January 05, 2010, 07:10:09 AM
I had a major problem with that show. I hated how at times, there would be cute wacky chibi moments with the characters after we had just seen scenes of intense violence, gore and psychological trauma that would scar us for weeks. I couldn't really get in the mode of "OOOOH LOOK AT THESE CUTE CHARACTERS ARGUING OVER A BENTO BOX!!!" after I had seen someone chopped up, mutilated-etc.

Part of what makes it brilliant. If you're unsettled and confused, they did something right.

Agreed! There's a lot of criticism about the changes in the atmosphere changing too radically, but I actually enjoyed that kind of non-linear abnormal way of developing the story.

Quote from: Drew on January 05, 2010, 08:08:36 AM

Quote from: Seekr12 on January 05, 2010, 07:10:09 AM
The numerous arcs also drove me nuts. Maybe I need to watch the second season-I originally thought it was an attempt to just capitalize on the popularity of the first season, but if it actually explains WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED in the first season I'll give it a watch.

It answers almost all of the questions about the first season. Everything has a reason behind it. Multiple arcs included.

About the arcs, I've been wondering about Shion...

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Drew · « **Reply #68 on:** January 05, 2010, 11:03:39 AM »

Quote from: natures on January 05, 2010, 10:49:02 AM

About the arcs, I've been wondering about Shion...
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In the second arc of the first season, I wonder if the mass-murderer was in fact Mion and not Shion. Even though we see Shion slaughtering everyone connected to the murder of Satoshi in the Watanagashi arc, there's actually no definite hint about it being Shion in the second arc as well. I think that assuming that Shion was the culprit in both cases only makes it simpler to understand and doesn't definitely prove that Mion had nothing to do with the murders in the second arc. If anyone has a better analysis of this, please let me know. The only guess I have about it being Shion in the second arc is her hysteric laugh on the phone. But on the other hand, that could've also have been Mion impersonating her sister.

Well, if you want an explanation, the VNs made it a little more clear (wasn't stated outright in the anime). Spoilers, I guess:

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Zalis116 · « **Reply #69 on:** January 05, 2010, 09:30:27 PM »

Quote from: dbml

So... thanks to the freeleech I decided to get this, which everyone has raved about. After 8 episodes and two resets, I think that's enough for me to say this is easily one of the worst series I've ever seen.

Complete waste of time. Dropped for good.

Quote from: dbml on January 04, 2010, 12:24:35 AM

Aw, did someone just get butthurt because I'm hating on one of their favorite series?

Just as you're allowed to rave about how good the series is, I'm allowed to say how shitty it is. I'm just giving an opposing viewpoint on a clearly well-liked series. People can take what they want from what I say. If they choose to watch it, that's their call. All I can hope is that some people heed my warning and avoid it, so their brain doesn't turn to mush from what they would endure.

It's probably the second worst series I've ever started watching. Props to anyone who finished this crapfest.

All I can say is, if I were undecided on the series, I wouldn't take the advice/warning of someone who'd seen a mere 16% of the story.

dbml · « **Reply #70 on:** January 05, 2010, 10:08:30 PM »

Quote from: Zalis116 on January 05, 2010, 09:30:27 PM

All I can say is, if I were undecided on the series, I wouldn't take the advice/warning of someone who'd seen a mere 16% of the story.

I think 8 episodes is more than enough to decide whether or not a series is any good. In that amount of time it's easy enough to draw solid conclusions about the characters (how enjoyable or annoying they are), the comedy (good or bad) and the story thus far. If someone needs to watch the entire 26 episodes to figure that out, they're an idiot.

psyren · « **Reply #71 on:** January 06, 2010, 03:08:50 AM »

You do realise things can change very quickly, don't you?
Of course you don't. Go back to your explosions and random panty shots.

dbml · « **Reply #72 on:** January 06, 2010, 05:00:51 AM »

Quote from: psyren on January 06, 2010, 03:08:50 AM

You do realise things can change very quickly, don't you?
Of course you don't. Go back to your explosions and random panty shots.

Ouch, that hurt

FYI explosions are cool, but panty shots are not.

I realize that a lot of things won't change:
My hatred for the characters.
My hatred of the comedy.
The resets will continue.
And I'd want to keep watching... why? I even watched the final episode for the hell of it. Yeah, it was pretty bad. I can't bring myself to care at all about those damn kids. No way I'm suffering through 52 episodes of hell and headaches. I wouldn't even if the ending was grander than School Days! (Like all the kids dying permanently?)

The only reason I'd pick this up again is if Scooby Doo and the gang showed up to solve the mystery of what was happening, then I'd be all in.

psyren · « **Reply #73 on:** January 06, 2010, 05:16:58 AM »

S2 has only 2/3 loops, because things are being unravelled.
Yes, S1 was hard to get through because of annoying characters, but you have to accept it as part of Japanese media. All their fictional teenagers are about as pleasant as a yeast infection. It does get better towards the end.

I have only ever dropped one series: Ninja Resurrection. That was because it was incomplete, and because I couldn't find the other episode anywhere.

You cannot judge something until you have seen it in its complete form.

dbml · « **Reply #74 on:** January 06, 2010, 05:38:46 AM »

Quote from: psyren on January 06, 2010, 05:16:58 AM

You cannot judge something until you have seen it in its complete form.

I do agree with that. But even still, I can think of at least 20 other series out there that I'd rather watch in place of this, that won't annoy me and give me a headache. I've read all the spoilers and wiki'd the hell out of this series... and to me the payoff at the end isn't worth pain I'll suffer through to get there. I very rarely drop series myself. I try to finish everything I start... but some are just impossible, knowing what's waiting for me.

I'd be more apt to leave the rest of season 1 in the dumpster where it belongs and just pick up season 2 to see what happens. I don't see it happening, but if I'm really desperate for something to watch... who knows.

natures · « **Reply #75 on:** January 06, 2010, 06:10:03 AM »

Quote from: dbml on January 06, 2010, 05:38:46 AM

I'd be more apt to leave the rest of season 1 in the dumpster where it belongs and just pick up season 2 to see what happens. I don't see it happening, but if I'm really desperate for something to watch... who knows.

If you do that, you should at least watch the final arc of S1, because the beginning of S2 makes a reference to it.

Drew · « **Reply #76 on:** January 06, 2010, 10:12:18 AM »

Quote from: dbml on January 06, 2010, 05:38:46 AM

I'd be more apt to leave the rest of season 1 in the dumpster where it belongs and just pick up season 2 to see what happens. I don't see it happening, but if I'm really desperate for something to watch... who knows.

Not finishing the first season and skipping to the second would be a huge mistake.

Reinvent · « **Reply #77 on:** January 15, 2010, 05:02:48 PM »

Finished Kai just now and it turned out better than I thought it would. As the first season was progressing it made less and less sense ... but once you add aliens, magic, and gods then it turns out fine (I was thinking, l'm sure like others were, that this had none of that). There were probably a little more things they could have fixed or added to make things more "realistic", but those weren't huge so I won't make a big deal about it.

I had a lot of questions, most of which I forgot, but I'll just post some that I remember.

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Cypher · « **Reply #78 on:** January 15, 2010, 05:53:17 PM »

Quote from: Reinvent on January 15, 2010, 05:02:48 PM

I had a lot of questions, most of which I forgot, but I'll just post some that I remember.

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Why wasn't anything done about the foster home Miyo Takano was sent to? If anything I guess that was out of their budget or didn't have enough time to add in.

What's the thing that Mion carries around that resembles a gun and a hostler? Is that a taser? If so should she be carrying it around like that?

How did Hanyuu forget that Takano was the mastermind? Wasn't she giving her a good stare down when Takano was offering a coin?

At the end when the "older" Rika apparently gains time traveling powers, doesn't her changing Takano's life mean that everything that happened wouldn't happen, which means that she wouldn't be there time traveling because she wouldn't know about Takano?! ... This is why time traveling doesn't work.

I'll answer the last one:

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Havoc10K · « **Reply #79 on:** January 16, 2010, 09:33:03 AM »

Quote from: psyren on January 06, 2010, 05:16:58 AM

S2 has only 2/3 loops, because things are being unravelled.
Yes, S1 was hard to get through because of annoying characters, but you have to accept it as part of Japanese media. All their fictional teenagers are about as pleasant as a yeast infection. It does get better towards the end.

I have only ever dropped one series: Ninja Resurrection. That was because it was incomplete, and because I couldn't find the other episode anywhere.

You cannot judge something until you have seen it in its complete form.

have to aggree with that, l can say almost outright that l have Code Geas, tough l have to complete it (5 more eps of second season left)

But Higurashi DID make a lot of asspain, and yes

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Higurashi stays on my high grade shelf, it certainly is worth the pain of watching it all. also the fanservice in Rei first eps and the rest is a good reward, l actually wouldn't mind watching more Higurashi, but l don't want to see Rika going through more hardships, she went through a lot

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second season was really good, it really does explain 97% questions, and the remainder of answers is in Rei (wich actually is like 3 answers that needed to be informed)

l would really like to debate everything l love in Higurashi but that would be a major spoiler, and l'd preffer you to watch it, l really preffer the second season due to first season PAIN but first season had some incredible artwork, a lot of great stuff.

my favorite arcs in first season are

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