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misachaos

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Screw technology
« on: September 21, 2009, 03:06:52 AM »
Seriously. Stuff is supposed to work not catch fire on you D<

example from today

http://i38.tinypic.com/licly.jpg
and
http://i34.tinypic.com/2hyyntv.jpg

ull know what it is once you read the words on the chip .-.

Next thing to break= Camera I used I bet...
« Last Edit: September 21, 2009, 03:41:15 AM by misachaos »

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2009, 04:13:40 AM »
What did you expect from a cheap usb hub?
All you have to do is study it out. Just study it out.

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2009, 04:20:08 AM »
What did you expect from a cheap usb hub?

It was D-link o.o those are bad?
It was gift to me so i had no idea anyways lol
(Priced the hub to $30-50 online -.- isnt cheap)
« Last Edit: September 21, 2009, 04:24:40 AM by misachaos »

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2009, 04:28:37 AM »



I think this is relevent

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2009, 06:49:10 AM »
XD, I quite often find myself posting right after Shabutie, wierd. But where can one find more of that funny comic?

More relevant to topic: Have you (misachaos ) been doing evil deeds lately. This could be karma getting back at you. But I never trust those usb expansion things too much.
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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2009, 07:11:42 AM »
XD, I quite often find myself posting right after Shabutie, wierd. But where can one find more of that funny comic?
You're kidding me, right? You really don't know Penny Arcade?
Back on topic: I never really had much problems with technology - that is until I started using it for work. Weird.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2009, 07:13:37 AM by erious »

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2009, 08:06:36 AM »
Lol. I have a usb hub thats at least 6 years old here. Just bought a new one yesterday to replace it, only to find that the new one won't allow enough power to my external hd to use. So the old one is still reigning supreme.

And it came with some cheap software my dad bought xD

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2009, 10:11:43 AM »
Whoa, what did you plug in to burst a capacitor like that o.O

If it didn't come brand-new, then all bets are off... could be someone had problems with it and decided to give it away...
« Last Edit: September 21, 2009, 10:14:04 AM by kureshii »

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2009, 11:22:42 AM »
That should have been the kind of BSOD Bill Gates came up with. It's more direct.  ;D (I also have a few friends i would love to just give an abacus and Crayons to and be done with it).

And what the hell is that stuff that looks like hair on the hub? Is that supposed to be smoke?  ???
« Last Edit: September 21, 2009, 11:25:30 AM by Natheria »

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2009, 01:09:40 PM »
What did you expect from a cheap usb hub?

It was D-link o.o those are bad?
It was gift to me so i had no idea anyways lol
(Priced the hub to $30-50 online -.- isnt cheap)
Newegg.com

Search USB connections. Pick the top 3 high-ratings and read on them. I did that. I have two right now and they work like a charm. One I paid like 17 dollars for (and it lights blue, it looks really cool at night). The other one I paid 10 dollars for. The first one offers 7 USB and the other offers 4 USB connections. Both are external.


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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2009, 04:39:52 PM »
That should have been the kind of BSOD Bill Gates came up with. It's more direct.  ;D (I also have a few friends i would love to just give an abacus and Crayons to and be done with it).

And what the hell is that stuff that looks like hair on the hub? Is that supposed to be smoke?  ???

I believe those are the remnants of what was once an intact capacitor.



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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2009, 04:57:29 PM »
That should have been the kind of BSOD Bill Gates came up with. It's more direct.  ;D (I also have a few friends i would love to just give an abacus and Crayons to and be done with it).

And what the hell is that stuff that looks like hair on the hub? Is that supposed to be smoke?  ???

I believe those are the remnants of what was once an intact capacitor.



:D

^^^  This.

I asked the same question though XD

(If only it could withstand 1.21 gigawatts!)

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2009, 05:02:22 PM »
Seriously. Stuff is supposed to work not catch fire on you D<

example from today

http://i38.tinypic.com/licly.jpg
and
http://i34.tinypic.com/2hyyntv.jpg

ull know what it is once you read the words on the chip .-.

Next thing to break= Camera I used I bet...

What did you have connected to it?

If i understand it correctly(read on wikipedia) the parts job is to stop/hold energy. Since its blown up / burned, it prolly got a bit to much.

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2009, 05:30:37 PM »
The USB 1.x and 2.0 specifications provide a 5 V supply on a single wire from which connected USB devices may draw power. The specification provides for no more than 5.25 V and no less than 4.75 V (5 V±5%) between the positive and negative bus power lines. For USB 2.0 the voltage supplied by low-powered hub ports is 4.4 V to 5.25 V.
A maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) can be drawn from a port in USB 2.0, [...]
If the USB hub was operating according to spec, then it really is rated for no more than 5V and 0.5A per port (for devices transferring data, anyway; there're other specifications for things like using the USB port for power-only). If it melts down because a mini-fridge was plugged in to it, that's hardly its fault.

It does look like a POS, in that it doesn't seem to have any decent form of over-current protection on any of the ports, but almost all USB hubs out there don't have any either.

It is likely D-Link just threw in a generic 7-port USB hub, put their label on it, and sold it for a nice price premium. Unless there's good evidence that the manufacturer did something special with their circuitry, chances are it's no better off compared to a generic USB hub that costs less than half the price.

I'd be careful plugging in anything with a high power draw to a USB hub (unless it's self-powered or has its own AC adapter, and uses USB only for communication). Chances are it's operating out of USB spec and might kill your hub. The USB port and cables were not conceived or designed for high power delivery, I'd use a more appropriate cabling system for that.

If that's not what caused the burst capacitor, you really should write in to D-Link with a complaint.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2009, 05:46:36 PM by kureshii »

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2009, 06:32:25 PM »
I had 4 Externals running through it (two remain on constantly exept for breaks too cool) , Speakers (always turned off when not in use), a printer (also always off) and a WiiMote USB-Charge station o.o

Nothing rlly taxing.

Im gonna call d-link yah lol

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2009, 12:58:59 PM »
(If only it could withstand 1.21 gigawatts!)

Now i see what your problem is Misa.  ;D



Stop trying to power your time machines through that shitty USB hub!  ::)
« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 01:02:07 PM by Natheria »

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2009, 10:16:44 PM »
I had 4 Externals running through it (two remain on constantly exept for breaks too cool) , Speakers (always turned off when not in use), a printer (also always off) and a WiiMote USB-Charge station o.o

Nothing rlly taxing.

Im gonna call d-link yah lol

Well, I would look at what the draw on the WiiMote charger is.

Also, it looks like the hub was externally powered. Line noise can fry the capacitor.

It could just be age. Capacitors break with time.

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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2009, 10:36:10 PM »
Umm... hubs are great. But I've never had issues with them. They're good for things that don't need high speed but need power. Like shitty ipods, mp3s, USB NDS chargers, speakers powered by USB, MAYBE externals... but usually no. Too slow transfer rate.

That's totally weird though. Complain, get a new one and see if it's just a one in a thousand defect. But sometimes, you get things that are just inherently flawed.
(I got a certain dunlop squash racquet model, it collapsed on itself and the asshole at sportchek tried to deny me warranty. I got a new one and it's bending. I have a third one which I had to buy to grab warranty off of since I misplaced my first receipt and it's still ok, but I'm thinking of selling it. Fuck aluminium racquets. Carbon all the way)
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Re: Screw technology
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2009, 02:29:10 AM »
I had 4 Externals running through it (two remain on constantly exept for breaks too cool) , Speakers (always turned off when not in use), a printer (also always off) and a WiiMote USB-Charge station o.o

Nothing rlly taxing.

Im gonna call d-link yah lol

Well, I would look at what the draw on the WiiMote charger is.

Also, it looks like the hub was externally powered. Line noise can fry the capacitor.

It could just be age. Capacitors break with time.

Manufacter date on chip dated to 1/20/2003 so age probally was it.

@ Wiimote charger draws in

it says Input: DC 5V 450mA
5v probally from wall-charger. since i used packaged usb charger. I used to charge em with the PS2 Slimlines USB Ports but it took too long