Author Topic: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)  (Read 1891 times)

Offline kioshi_imako

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Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« on: September 22, 2009, 03:45:59 AM »
I am not sure but I think someone is transmitting bad data of episode 1. Not sure about the other episodes yet as they are still downloading. But as of yet this is how things follow:

Windows media player: Very buggy playback
VLC(i know not a good one): Crashes
Div X Player: Notifies me the file is corupt before crashing.
GOM: Very buggy playback

I am thinking of restarting the download from scratch if I cant playback episode 2.

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 04:06:50 AM »
Every player you mentioned is shit for playback. Read http://wiki.bakabt.me/index.php/Windows_Video_Playback

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2009, 04:49:23 AM »
Or it could be my computer tried Zoom got really good play back but acts like it is lagging like when your on a game server. Must be my computer.

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2009, 05:45:50 AM »
Seriously. Install CCCP and CoreAVC. Your problems will be gone.

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2009, 08:35:42 AM »
I downloaded those to and well it got worse.

The audio and video are off.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 08:43:31 AM by kioshi_imako »

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2009, 08:42:27 AM »
Seriously. Install CCCP and CoreAVC. Your problems will be gone.
It depends... if the OP's computer isn't fast or powerful enough to handle 1080p, I doubt that any software will help.

You may want to download a 720p or lower-res version.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 08:51:03 AM by Zalis116 »


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Offline kioshi_imako

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2009, 08:44:21 AM »
Its odd cause i never had problems with blue ray quality before.

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2009, 09:07:05 AM »
Have you read the playback guides? Installing both CCCP and CoreAVC but misconfiguring them will still give you playback problems. I also assume that your computer is capable of playing 1080p.

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 09:15:14 AM »
May be you have a hw problem with the media you are storing the video files. I recommend a torrent re-check.

I am not sure but I think someone is transmitting bad data of episode 1. Not sure about the other episodes yet as they are still downloading. But as of yet this is how things follow:

Windows media player: Very buggy playback
VLC(i know not a good one): Crashes
Div X Player: Notifies me the file is corupt before crashing.
GOM: Very buggy playback

I am thinking of restarting the download from scratch if I cant playback episode 2.

If you are using a BitTorrent Client to download the series, someone can feed you with corrupt data, but it wont be permanent. The corruption will be remedied before the file (every file) is completed.

No corruption can pass a hash check. But a localized read/write corruption of the medium you are using to store your files AFTER the download is complete CAN NOT be prevented, in this case you can receive the messages you have mentioned above. Only a hash re-check can reveal this kind of problem.

If your files survive the hash re-check, consider upgrading :P

« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 09:26:29 AM by enginarc »

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2009, 09:48:04 AM »
1st question: Is your processor a dual-core (that isn't an Atom)? If no, all bets are off; A 3.8GHz Pentium 4 may or may not be able to handle high-bitrate h264 (assuming hardware-accelerated decoding isn't being used), even with CoreAVC software decoding.

On the other hand, I have yet to find  a consumer dual-core with a maximum clock speed of at least 1.6GHz that cannot handle high-end h264 video with CoreAVC software decoding (if there are no heavy-crunching karaoke effects).
« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 10:20:30 AM by kureshii »

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2009, 09:58:43 AM »
1st question: Is your processor a dual-core (that isn't an Atom)? If no, all bets are off; A 3.8GHz Pentium 4 may or may not be able to handle high-bitrate h264 (assuming hardware-accelerated decoding isn't being used), even with CoreAVC software decoding.

On the other hand, I have yet to find  a consumer dual-core with a maximum clock speed of at least 1.6GHz that cannot handle high-end h264 video with CoreAVC software decoding (assuming no heavy-crunching karaoke effects).

I don't think the symptoms fit to the case of slow computer Doctor Kureshii. No matter how slow, the computer wont say the file is corrupt, it will just skip the frames.

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2009, 10:09:25 AM »
I don't think the symptoms fit to the case of slow computer Doctor Kureshii. No matter how slow, the computer wont say the file is corrupt, it will just skip the frames.
It should be noted that only DivX player reports the file as corrupt (whatever that means to DivX Player). 'Buggy video playback' is about as vague as feedback gets (but better than 'doesn't work', I guess). But as you said, the surest way to know if it's corrupt or not would be to check the file hash.

AniDB reports 1080p Ep1 as having CRC hash 93EC8681 (verified). If the CRC hash of your file (generated with a hashing program e.g. HashCheck) does not match that, then the file is corrupted.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 05:37:07 PM by kureshii »

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 10:26:32 AM »
Come in kioshi, come in. What is your status, over.

[hissss, garbled noises]

Ahh, I think we lost the patient doctor  ::)

It should be noted that only DivX player reports the file as corrupt (whatever that means to DivX Player). 'Buggy video playback' is about as vague as feedback gets (but better than 'doesn't work', I guess)

ohh, that one. I thought apps other than DivX player were properly designed to handle streaming data (internet, network etc), so that when they encounter a corruption in the stream, they tend to recover the data, but the result would be buggy (only if we had a ss) . It possibly would not matter whether the file was local or not (since it is impossible to determine whether a file is local or not) once you develop such a mechanism, the app would render the video.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 11:25:45 AM by enginarc »

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Re: Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 1 (1080p, THORA)
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2009, 05:14:21 PM »
If you got Windows Media Player to even recognize the file, that means your computer has some codec pack or other installed. I can't be sure of exactly what you did from the posts but I am guessing that you installed CCCP and CoreAVC on top of another codec pack. Very much the recipe for disaster.

My Recommendation:
1.) Get rid of every player. They are of no use to you (except Windows Media Player, that one probably won't leave your system anyway)
2.) Get the CCCP Insurgent, and delete every codec pack and individual codec stuff it finds (even CCCP and stuff, just to be sure)
3.) Then install CCCP, and in the settings menu make sure you check the option that says Autoload VS Filter (in the second menu after you click next)
4.) Try playing the file then with the only player you should have left: Windows Media Player (cause I'd be stunned if you managed to un-install that without messing up something or other in your system).
5.) Then, the only remaining problem would be your system resources. If, and only if, your computer is on the verge of being able to play the file flawlessly should you go for CoreAVC. If your computer just sucks then even that program won't be able to do much for you. CoreAVC's real advantage is offloading to GPU, and that works especially well if you have an Nvidia card.

If you have an old Windows Media Player, then use the MPC included with the CCCP. If on the other hand you have WMP 11 or especially if you have 12, then don't worry about it.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 05:17:33 PM by xtras »