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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2009, 08:16:28 AM »
I still have those huge and thick dictionaries, all of them stacked up will be higher than me, not to mention 3 different versions of complete encyclopedias.
Books are still awesome.

Agreed. Using the dictionary will always mean going to fetch it and thumb through it for me. Its the one book thats readily available in mine and my parents houses

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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2009, 08:17:13 AM »
Korean Tech = Japan Tech

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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2009, 12:46:09 AM »
Korean Tech = Japan Tech

Dark Jedi = delusional.
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2009, 01:01:38 AM »
Thread is gonna get closed, ...............  :'( stay on topic.


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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2009, 02:35:19 AM »
I don't get why everyone is so excited about electronic pocket dictionaries. Our cellphones are like small PCs.

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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2009, 02:43:33 AM »
I don't get why everyone is so excited about electronic pocket dictionaries. Our cellphones are like small PCs.
Almost there, not there yet.

Me and couple of my co-workers were talking about this. Sooner or later we'll have our own personal computer that'll fit right into our hands. We're talking about having the super-fast computers with high-tech video cards and what not. Not some ... junky stuff that's on the market. Yes, even iPhone and whatever else you wanna name. This is like, far far in the future. You'll pretty much have it as the size of a phone and you click it once and a hologram would display and lets you access your computer automatically. We can dream, right?


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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2009, 02:47:33 AM »
I don't get why everyone is so excited about electronic pocket dictionaries. Our cellphones are like small PCs.
Almost there, not there yet.

Me and couple of my co-workers were talking about this. Sooner or later we'll have our own personal computer that'll fit right into our hands. We're talking about having the super-fast computers with high-tech video cards and what not. Not some ... junky stuff that's on the market. Yes, even iPhone and whatever else you wanna name. This is like, far far in the future. You'll pretty much have it as the size of a phone and you click it once and a hologram would display and lets you access your computer automatically. We can dream, right?

Tatsu, me and a few friends were talking about that but not cellphone setup but on a watch setup, also we were talking about how they would integrate phone into watches. It was mildly funny but a quite interesting convo.
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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2009, 03:00:23 AM »
Me and couple of my co-workers were talking about this. Sooner or later we'll have our own personal computer that'll fit right into our hands. We're talking about having the super-fast computers with high-tech video cards and what not. Not some ... junky stuff that's on the market. Yes, even iPhone and whatever else you wanna name. This is like, far far in the future. You'll pretty much have it as the size of a phone and you click it once and a hologram would display and lets you access your computer automatically. We can dream, right?

Well, sure. Our cellphones aren't as good as the current desktops, but they'll never be. They are loads better than a late 80s PC, at least. I was merely stating that a dictionary isn't really that complicated. A flash card can hold a theoretical amout of Terabytes of data, and it's the size of a nail.

The big problem with the current types is the heat that comes with small devices, as well as the problem of manufacturing things smaller than the nanometer-scale. Of course, there is likely to come forth new technologies in the future. I think a large computer will always be able stay a huge step in front of small computers from the same era, though. I find it hard to see otherwise. What might be possible, is that computers could become so good that in practical daily use, consumers would not see the difference between a low-end and a high-end one.

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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2009, 05:03:32 AM »
I don't get why everyone is so excited about electronic pocket dictionaries. Our cellphones are like small PCs.

Because they were amazing 10+ years ago. Now, we can download the same thing into our phones, PDAs etc. for a low cost/free.  This wasn't readily available back in the day. In fact, I believe the software for this to be put on a PDA was about 100+ dollars ON TOP of the fact those things were several hundred dollars if not a thousand dollars.
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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2009, 08:46:02 PM »
Dark Jedi = delusional.

I'm telling you the generally accepted view. >_>

Korea - along with Japan - is the leading world pioneer in electronics, quantum physics, and fiber optics technology, and the leading producer of transportation and electronic/computer consumer products. Korea has the fastest Internet network worldwide.

This thread was Japan > America, no?

I say, if Korea's tech isn't better than America's, then Japan's ain't either.

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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2009, 11:18:33 PM »
Considering that the whole thing has been compressed into an application on peoples phones and netbooks, nobody really wants to carry around an actual translator/pda/address book anymore. I suppose once the right technology comes around (i.e. special cooling systems and less than 20 nm technology with the newer biotech, non-silicon/semiconducter based stuff), PC's will become obsolete as well, and will be replaced by pretty blazing fast laptops. Who knows what the future holds, but the curiosity is certainly fun.

A notebook is more powerful than an ancient mainframe. Did notebooks become the new mainframes? No. Mainframes are still mainframes and still much more powerful than puny little notebooks.
I am not disputing that. For the moment, new high end technology still comes huge and then slowly the safe features are maintained in shrunken down size. This probably won't always be the case is what I was hinting at...

The statement still holds: Japanese Tech >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American Tech
Generalizations are usually wrong. But in this case, this generalization holds true a great deal. Too bad Japan isn't much of a market for its own technology. They make a killing off the US instead.

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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2009, 02:34:17 AM »
Dark Jedi = delusional.

I'm telling you the generally accepted view. >_>

Korea - along with Japan - is the leading world pioneer in electronics, quantum physics, and fiber optics technology, and the leading producer of transportation and electronic/computer consumer products. Korea has the fastest Internet network worldwide.

Most microprocessor advances have come from Intel, which is a US company. Actual advances in the field of computer science are spread over so many scientists in so many countries to say where it's coming from is stupid. While Asus (a Korean company) is definitely a top quality producer of electronics they, themselves, can hardly be said to be driving advances.

Quantum physics? Einstein, Bohr, Schrodinger, Heisenberg, Podolsky, Rosen, Planck. Funny, none of those names are particularly Asian sounding.

And fiber optics? Most of that research has been done by so many people, from so many countries (primarily Western) to say that Japan (Korea has had nothing to do with it) is the "leader" is wrong. Hell, most advances came from Europe. So not a point for the US, but definitely a "loss" for your precious Korea.


In short, your ignorance is astounding.


Japanese vending machines totally kick American vending machines collective ass, though.

The linear nature of your Euclidean geometry both confounds and befuddles me.

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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2009, 02:41:39 AM »
Japanese vending machines totally kick American vending machines collective ass, though.
Hey man your forgetting about the ole classic coke machines, come on now.
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« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2009, 02:48:03 AM »
Someone else was asserting that Japan tech > U.S. tech by using Japanese electronic consumer products as an example, and I was trying to prove him wrong by using the fact that Korean products are equal in quality or even superior to Japanese products as an example also.

So Japan > U.S. because of electronic consumer products = false


I know that theoretical researches have been conducted more extensively by the U.S. and European scientists in the previous generations. But it's Asians now who are making these researches conducive for real-world application and entrepreneurship because less and less Westerners are willing or competent enough to do it, as the older Western scientists keep retiring and as the youth refuse or neglect to indulge in scientific studies or even tertiary education in general. Asia is the powerhouse of new generations of scientists and engineers; Asia is the new emerging scientific super power. Korea and Japan are its figurehead.

Check how Korea's upper-echelon companies like Samsung, LG, and Hyundai has surpassed their Western and Japanese counterparts in the last few years. Korea is starting to dominate the electronic market; Samsung is already the largest electronics producer and 2nd largest naval transport producer worldwide. (1st is Hyundai, a Korean company) And clearly Korea's application of Information Technology is much more efficient than that of any other countries in the world.


Btw, uh, Asus isn't Korean >_>
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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2009, 05:18:06 AM »
Most microprocessor advances have come from Intel, which is a US company.

Technically, Asia does have the edge in microprocessors for the time being. Intel may be a US company, but their Israeli R&D office is the one keeping them ahead of the competition for the last couple of years.

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« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2009, 05:22:25 AM »
but their Israeli R&D office is the one keeping them ahead of the competition for the last couple of years.

If it's true, I believe it would be because the R&D offices in the American mainland itself has stagnated in terms of human resources due to, uh, lack of scientists and engineers among the current generation.

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« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2009, 05:28:13 AM »
Technically, Asia does have the edge in microprocessors for the time being. Intel may be a US company, but their Israeli R&D office is the one keeping them ahead of the competition for the last couple of years.
Intel's Israel R&D kept them in the performance competition when AMD's Athlon 64 was beating the hell out of Netburst.

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Re: Japanese Technology > American ... Stuff
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2009, 07:53:14 AM »
Uh, Japan doesn't invent stuff, they refine existing technologies.

And that looks about half a step above those one purpose game thingies... You know, a crap game with an awful LCD screen that I'm sure you can remember floating around back in '92.

Tatsujin's lack of understanding of technology continues....
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« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2009, 08:09:37 AM »
'Refined' technology essentially means an improved technology lol

Which usually means something better

However its refinement is usually limited to consumer products.
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« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2009, 10:03:49 AM »
Uh, Japan doesn't invent stuff, they refine existing technologies.
They do invent stuff. Practical blue laser diodes found in you BD drives for example.