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fohfoh:
lol. I get on fights on a single debate with people on both sides.
For instance... abortion.
IMO
Abortion should be an option to people. Stigmatize it if you want... but keep it an option. For those who actually have a hurtful past to need abortion or a medical complication which may require it as well... sure. But for the one who goes multiple times because she's an idiot and a bonified "slut". She deserves falcon punches instead.
Now. On religious grounds.
Abortion can be considered non-issue at certain cycles of the birth. If it really comes down to it... let each sect consider its own "level" at which abortion is considered allowed, or not. (Though one can always also argue that abortion shouldn't be needed int he first place if "Adulterous habits" are kept in check) But I also argue there are situations where "adultery doesn't come in". (Like rape). Then I have retards scream "it's the will of God". Fuck you. We are sheep. The will of God gives us the Shepard. But doesn't mean we still aren't capable of walking into an electric fence and turning ourselves into Mouton Flambe or hopping off a cliff like a lemming.
Atheism/Agnostic against religious grounds.
Just because you don't feel that the fetus is not yet life, nor does law talk about it does not mean there are still no moral or ethical issues tied to this. If one religion/ethnicity etc. has some issues with it... let them talk it through. Don't be a pushy fuckhole and make everyone "be required to agree with you".
All in all. I think the person in question should be the one who gets ultimate choice in abortion. I don't think anyone else should be allowed to take control. To pressure someone to do so, yes. But officially, nothing should be able to be done by external parties. And those who say "I was pressured. I had no choice" can stfu. They just want to blame other people for their own weakness in willpower.
Viseroid:
@fohfoh
The abortion issue is a mess. The leading cause of abortion is failure to utilize contraceptives. People get caught up in the moment and become too stupid to put on a condom. If they're too dumb to put on a condom I doubt they'd raise children to be any smarter. Condoms aren't expensive and neither are pills (10 USD a box and 15-50 USD a month, respectively). I don't want to let these idiots terminate a human just because they were dumb; I want them to deal with pregnancy and child raising. However, I don't want the kid to be stuck with the morons who brought him/her into the world. *ruffles hair in frustration*
Whatever my views are I don't try to force them upon other people. However, I explain to them what I think in hopes it'll help them reach their own conclusion. The government is stupid because they're trying to fight abortion from the wrong end; a signed piece of paper isn't going to stop people from not wanting children. If they want to stop abortions they should promote the use of contraceptives, not make it illegal. Unfortunately, that in turn would appear to religious people to be the encouragement of promiscuity. This brings me to my next pet peeve.
Religious people who think they know what is best for other people and have arrived at their conclusions not through thought but through their pastors.
ASAFan:
Whoa, where to start...
1. People who stuff a ton of toilet paper into a toilet so it doesn't flush. Even worse when you're on an 11-hour train trip that is about to stretch into 13 hours because the track is overheated. There are other restrooms, but how long before someone does those too?
By the way, that blue chemical stuff is putrid, almost as bad as the stuff it's trying to flush out.
2. People who put up unintelligible maps at train stations, then get all pissy when you ask about them? Newark International Airport was NOWHERE ON THAT MAP, MISS; don't bitch at me when I ask you at 9:55pm how to get there. I just got off a long train trip and am in an unfamiliar city.
3. Mapquest. Gave me some of the worst directions around. US 1 is NOT the shortest route to Lubec, thank you very much.
4. People who stand and f--k the bookshelf reading several books with no intent of buying them, or letting others look at some of the other books, then putting back the books with the covers bent back. PISSES ME OFF BIG TIME
5. Parents who let their kids scream and talk loudly in restaurants wtih the occasional, meaningless "stopit"
6. People who block aisles talking when they could stop over to the side and talk or take pictures (Animazement is in a much bigger place; the "no room to pull over" is NOT AN EXCUSE)
7. Restaurant employees who sit in the customer section, talk loudly on the cell phone and play games out loud while the overhead music plays inaudibly in the background.
8. Hip-hop
9. Hip-hop played at 300dB by cars rolling down the street. Your music sucks; don't accent it with sonic booms, please.
10. Kanye West and others like him. Beyonce showed grace towards Miss Swift, and has a lot more class than your tone-deaf ass.
11. People who think President Bush was the biggest idiot around, then insist despite contrary evidence, that he pulled off the biggest tragedy in recent history as a scam!!! Take OFF the tinfoil hat.
12. Spam
13. People who don't do what I tell them to do at work, then bitch at me when their stuff doesn't work.
Klocknov:
@asafan: 8 I will have to disagree with, now if you said new age hip-hop I would agree mostly. Old School Hip Hop had some good music, you have the Beastie Boys, Tag Team, Sir Mix Alot, The Notorious B.I.G., and Tupac. Though with that playing of it loudly, if they set it up right it can actually sound good, but if they set it up with 20 subwoofers in the trunk it still is going to be hardcore crap.
Xtras:
--- Quote from: ASAFan on October 05, 2009, 01:10:09 AM ---Whoa, where to start...
1. People who stuff a ton of toilet paper into a toilet so it doesn't flush. Even worse when you're on an 11-hour train trip that is about to stretch into 13 hours because the track is overheated. There are other restrooms, but how long before someone does those too?
By the way, that blue chemical stuff is putrid, almost as bad as the stuff it's trying to flush out.
2. People who put up unintelligible maps at train stations, then get all pissy when you ask about them? Newark International Airport was NOWHERE ON THAT MAP, MISS; don't bitch at me when I ask you at 9:55pm how to get there. I just got off a long train trip and am in an unfamiliar city.
3. Mapquest. Gave me some of the worst directions around. US 1 is NOT the shortest route to Lubec, thank you very much.
4. People who stand and f--k the bookshelf reading several books with no intent of buying them, or letting others look at some of the other books, then putting back the books with the covers bent back. PISSES ME OFF BIG TIME
5. Parents who let their kids scream and talk loudly in restaurants wtih the occasional, meaningless "stopit"
6. People who block aisles talking when they could stop over to the side and talk or take pictures (Animazement is in a much bigger place; the "no room to pull over" is NOT AN EXCUSE)
7. Restaurant employees who sit in the customer section, talk loudly on the cell phone and play games out loud while the overhead music plays inaudibly in the background.
8. Hip-hop
9. Hip-hop played at 300dB by cars rolling down the street. Your music sucks; don't accent it with sonic booms, please.
10. Kanye West and others like him. Beyonce showed grace towards Miss Swift, and has a lot more class than your tone-deaf ass.
11. People who think President Bush was the biggest idiot around, then insist despite contrary evidence, that he pulled off the biggest tragedy in recent history as a scam!!! Take OFF the tinfoil hat.
12. Spam
13. People who don't do what I tell them to do at work, then bitch at me when their stuff doesn't work.
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I agree with : 1 2 3 5 6 7 10 11 12 13
4 : Now I personally look at books that I am not going to buy, but I make absolutely sure that nobody would ever be able to realize I touched that book without hiring a fingerprinting crew.
8 : Generalizations are usually wrong. While agree in the case of 80-85% of Hip Hop music, there is some good stuff mixed in with the junk
9 : You gotta admit that such senarios are just too funny. I point and laugh at such people. Until they get out of their bouncy car and come after me, at which point I run. Fast. Faster than their lazy asses anyway.
Oh and on the abortion thing. Somebody ought to tell those people that they need to take care of people after they are born as well. Instead of championing the whole pro-life deal and wasting you energy on pointless debate, first fix the broken adoption system and adopt the children that are already alive and needing homes. If you do that, the whole pro-life thing suddenly is no longer up to debate as now the chances are that kid really will end up with a good life, and people will stop having abortions and start putting those kids up for adoption. Unless you are too hypocritical to do what you ask everyone else to do.
In general though, I hate people with little empathy, and who think any theory or belief is 100% correct. If it was then it would be a fact, not a belief/theory.
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