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Offline VirtualTT

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A question considering "licesed" anime.
« on: September 25, 2009, 06:21:40 PM »
So for what reasons is so-called "licensed" anime banned from tracker? And what does exactly "licensed" title mean here?

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Re: A question considering "licesed" anime.
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2009, 06:32:09 PM »
The things banned from the tracker are the titles licensed by companies that have sent C&D orders to the site in the past.

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Re: A question considering "licesed" anime.
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2009, 06:40:34 PM »
The reason its banned is becouse of the legal issues i suppose. Licenced means that someone own the rights of the works, and you may not copy them.

read the Wiki, stay quiet. Else psyren or some other creature of death will eat you and lock youre tread :P

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Re: A question considering "licesed" anime.
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2009, 07:07:52 PM »
Licenced means that someone own the rights of the works, and you may not copy them.
Every anime has a legal copyright owner. And in general whole this tracker is illegal (as almost any other BitTorrent tracker). However only some titles are banned.

The things banned from the tracker are the titles licensed by companies that have sent C&D orders to the site in the past.
So why are admins (or whoever started anime banning program) concerned about it? It's not like these companies are actually able to affect BakaBT anyhow (unless they are living in some stringent law country, such as Saudi Arabia -_-~)

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Re: A question considering "licesed" anime.
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2009, 07:09:12 PM »
So for what reasons is so-called "licensed" anime banned from tracker? And what does exactly "licensed" title mean here?
1) We ban some licensed anime from the tracker, because the license-holders send C&D letters to our site host and we have better things to do with our lives than deal with legal bullcrap.

2) Licensed titles here and on the wiki are in this context taken to mean anime licensed for distribution in N.America.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2009, 07:32:16 PM by kureshii »

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Re: A question considering "licesed" anime.
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2009, 07:36:14 PM »
Is there any chance of this to change?
I mean don't admins seriously expect police of mafia knocking at their doors next day after any of the "licensed" anime appear on the tracker...

Licensed titles here and on the wiki are in this context taken to mean anime licensed for distribution in N.America.
Also should be Baka BT considered as US tracker than? I thought it's hosted in Netherlands and basically is an international tracker.

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Re: A question considering "licesed" anime.
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2009, 07:46:13 PM »
Any blacklisted material is denied. This is one reason why BBT has an offer section.

The tracker was either in the US or GB before the name changed. It could be true that the tracker is now international. But why bother to allow blacklisted material only to get trouble with certain companies?
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Re: A question considering "licesed" anime.
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2009, 07:46:53 PM »
Is there any chance of this to change?
I mean don't admins seriously expect police of mafia knocking at their doors next day after any of the "licensed" anime appear on the tracker...
uhh, no
it's enough that the company holding the license contacts the company who is hosting bakabt. they normally are quite quick to comply and shut the site down just to be on the safe side.

Also should be Baka BT considered as US tracker than? I thought it's hosted in Netherlands and basically is an international tracker.
bakabt is tracking anime in the english language, those companys are holding licenses for distribution in english speaking countries. so they have a right to force bakabt to take those titles down (or to ban access from those countries to these titles - which is a demand hard to meet for a site like bakabt)
« Last Edit: September 25, 2009, 08:00:14 PM by blubart »

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Re: A question considering "licesed" anime.
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2009, 08:16:30 PM »
Actually a LOT of material is blacklisted. :-\
I was going to upload a Galaxy Fraulein Yuna (OVAI/OVAII)torrent. But when i opened black list i was like OMFG 0_0...
So i guess i'll drop it on TPB as usual...

Seeing variety of torrent trackers throughout the Internet it's quite hard to believe that aggressive copyright owners can affect their work somehow. And it's even harder to believe that hosting company in Netherlands where drugs and prostitution are legal will be afraid of something like "licensed in US" anime...

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Re: A question considering "licesed" anime.
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2009, 08:45:07 PM »
What blubart pointed out is quite correct, it's not a matter if the hosting company in Netherlands is afraid of things licensed in US...

If we receive a C&D and do not comply, the next step for them is to notify the hosting company that we are distributing licensed material and request our service to be terminated. There is no reason for the hosting company to expose to risk of lawsuit or anything similar - they will just comply.

So it's better to just play it safe, and not take chances of what if...

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Re: A question considering "licesed" anime.
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2009, 07:33:58 AM »
Hello there new guy.

So, imagine what would happen if the staff decided to allow banned titles to be uploaded.....

Let's just say that the disadvantages outweigh the good parts.
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Re: A question considering "licesed" anime.
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2009, 07:38:16 AM »
The site has been closed down by a license holder in the US in the past. That is why they don't allow material from them now, they rightly fear getting closed down again.