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vicious796:

--- Quote from: relic2279 on October 01, 2009, 05:49:30 AM ---Ah don't worry about it. We've all gone off on him at one point. He's quite an effective troll because he actually believes what he types is true. You should have seem him a month or two before the elections. Some claim semane as the liberal wingnut of bakabt, well nate1984 is at the opposite end of the spectrum. The neocon wingnut of bakabt. Both make things interesting though, so I don't complain.

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Relic... I'm hurt... I thought I was the other wingnut...

But, on a more serious note, just because we cram our kids in a classroom for a LONG period of time during a 5 day week, it doesn't take away from the fact that we give them 3-4 straight months off to forget everything they did and put off any summer assignments they may have gotten.

If you spread that out, make their days shorter but more of them. Give them the same amount of break time but spread it out, you may see results like Fairfax County did.

Klocknov:

--- Quote from: vicious796 on October 05, 2009, 12:17:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: relic2279 on October 01, 2009, 05:49:30 AM ---Ah don't worry about it. We've all gone off on him at one point. He's quite an effective troll because he actually believes what he types is true. You should have seem him a month or two before the elections. Some claim semane as the liberal wingnut of bakabt, well nate1984 is at the opposite end of the spectrum. The neocon wingnut of bakabt. Both make things interesting though, so I don't complain.

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Relic... I'm hurt... I thought I was the other wingnut...

But, on a more serious note, just because we cram our kids in a classroom for a LONG period of time during a 5 day week, it doesn't take away from the fact that we give them 3-4 straight months off to forget everything they did and put off any summer assignments they may have gotten.

If you spread that out, make their days shorter but more of them. Give them the same amount of break time but spread it out, you may see results like Fairfax County did.

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First off, what summer assignments?? Now I will have to agree with you full heartedly, extending the day and adding Saturdays isn't going to get the results he wants. Personally I think that they should keep about the same time a day for school and just re-work the school year layout to have shorter breaks but about the same amount of time on break.
I find that adding more time in school will cause problems with some students that are doing okay at the moment and decrease the performance of them. Also it isn't going to help the students that already have problems with the environment and can't learn in it or those who choose to not want to learn.
Another thing that needs work on is a better curriculum and good enforcement of it in the school system. I find that with the no kid left behind act we had a major hit on that part of the learning. Also maybe setting a nation wide test to replace the state tests, one that would better show the testing level of kids and work better in teaching the curriculum instead of for a test that is sticking kids further behind. I only say this since at one point those tests were to see how well the teachers were teaching, now it is being used as a way to graduate.

PS: I also find the current political system having the left and right wing stuff is a wrong system. I have views that mix I can't agree with the left nor the right on everything.

vicious796:
At least where I went to school, we had summer assignments for our classes the following year starting in middle school. We'd be given our classes for the next year and those teachers would generally assign some "light reading" to do. I'm not asking to have them at school on Saturdays, just no 3 month long break. Look, we adults have what, 8 "government" holidays a year, right? So we get 8 days off or so at most companies. So, give the kids those same holidays just make it a week instead of a day. Something along those lines I think would work well. It allows parents to get a good vacation chance as well, only having to take 4 days off instead of 5.

relic2279:

--- Quote from: vicious796 on October 05, 2009, 12:17:12 PM ---
Relic... I'm hurt... I thought I was the other wingnut...

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Nah, while you hold mostly conservative values, I've seen you talk about some liberal things before. Kinda like me, while I"m probably mostly liberal, I hold some conservative values about some things.

Klocknov:

--- Quote from: vicious796 on October 06, 2009, 04:40:31 PM ---At least where I went to school, we had summer assignments for our classes the following year starting in middle school. We'd be given our classes for the next year and those teachers would generally assign some "light reading" to do. I'm not asking to have them at school on Saturdays, just no 3 month long break. Look, we adults have what, 8 "government" holidays a year, right? So we get 8 days off or so at most companies. So, give the kids those same holidays just make it a week instead of a day. Something along those lines I think would work well. It allows parents to get a good vacation chance as well, only having to take 4 days off instead of 5.

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I was more thinking sticking major breaks like spring winter and I'm forgetting one to two weeks, summer down to a month and certain major holidays for that day. Though we would have to do some other crunching to make it work out with keeping it the same days or we could push it up to a 200 day school year and have mid term break of 2 weeks and summer a month and then mid quarters (spring and winter) a week/two and then some others. Also I think getting rid of half days would be a great idea also, I always found those annoying since for one I had to find out if it was an A/B day at all but one highschool I went too and and there was never really any learning time it was mostly either game time or random handouts.

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