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relic2279:
--- Quote from: nates1984 on October 06, 2009, 10:16:59 PM --- (because I'm such a neocon, right relic?),
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What are your opinions of Net Neutrality, Public option health care, religion in schools and gov't, gun laws, big-stick foreign policy, and taxes rolled back to pre-reagan levels for the rich to fight our deficit?
Those are the primary neocon issues in my opinion, and you've spoken your opinion on most of those.
nates1984:
--- Quote ---What are your opinions of Net Neutrality,
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No taxes on purchases over the internet, no censorship, and most importantly: Fuck Comcast.
--- Quote ---Public option health care,
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Better than what we currently have, but government intervention is no long term solution. The question is: What can we do to the markets so that it fixes healthcare itself, and thus no need for tax money to do it.
--- Quote --- religion in schools and gov't
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I'm for separation of church and state.
--- Quote ---, gun laws
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Don't give a shit really. Although, it is the illegal guns I'm most concerned with, not so much the legal ones. If the argument is that the illegal guns exist because they are sold, at one point, legally, then I must counter that even if they were all illegal they'd still be here. Marijuana and other illegal drugs are testament to that.
Gun laws are a consequence of crime. I'm inclined to ask why there is crime; gun laws are irrelevant, just another thing for you sheeple to argue about.
--- Quote ---, big-stick foreign policy
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The stick is expensive, and I'd rather not pay the taxes to buy it.
--- Quote ---, and taxes rolled back to pre-reagan levels for the rich to fight our deficit?
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Income tax shouldn't exist for anyone. The fact it does proves that the government is too big. Again, as with gun laws, you miss the subtle, but larger and more important, issue.
--- Quote ---Those are the primary neocon issues in my opinion, and you've spoken your opinion on most of those.
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Now, perhaps, but you have yet to hear even a sliver of my thoughts on these issues. Reducing it to sound bytes is hard to do, but that's the only way I can communicate with you people. You aren't careful readers, and certainly not careful writers. I adapt to my environment, but the subtleties and complexities of an issue do not exist within a sound byte. I've tried to create situations where the conversation brings these things to the surface, but the form of reckless debate I see on every single forum makes it incredibly difficult to steer a conversation to those waters.
relic2279:
Well, nate1984, then maybe I was wrong about you. Those are some pretty liberal/left leaning views. (Liberal in the states, moderate/conservative-ish in the rest of the world)
However,
--- Quote from: nates1984 on October 07, 2009, 06:30:02 AM ---The question is: What can we do to the markets so that it fixes healthcare itself, and thus no need for tax money to do it.
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Great, you should be for the public option then since it's completely budget neutral. No new taxes required. At least the plan being proposed is. Not only that, we could enact efficiency plans to further reduce costs, perhaps have a surplus like with medicare and social security when they first started.
--- Quote ---Income tax shouldn't exist for anyone. The fact it does proves that the government is too big. Again, as with gun laws, you miss the subtle, but larger and more important, issue.
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Almost every country in the world pays income taxes. Taxes exist to pay for everything from your roads, to your mail, to the EPA which monitors the content of the food and water you drink, and much, much more. Privatizing those services would be a complete disaster.
$2 billion a week of your tax money was/is being spent on the war in Iraq. Why do these people who are so anti democrat, anti liberal support the war so much? I don't understand it. They go around raging about taxes and form these moronic teabag parties complaining about socialized medicine. Even though a public option is completely budget neutral, complete all out universal health care would be a literally be less than a drop in the bucket compared to the taxes their paying on republican sponsored taxes and programs. Not to mention, 99.9 percent of them would benefit from such a plan.
Edit: above i said EPA, I meant FDA :P
furuoshiki:
--- Quote from: nates1984 on October 07, 2009, 06:30:02 AM ---Now, perhaps, but you have yet to hear even a sliver of my thoughts on these issues. Reducing it to sound bytes is hard to do, but that's the only way I can communicate with you people. You aren't careful readers, and certainly not careful writers. I adapt to my environment, but the subtleties and complexities of an issue do not exist within a sound byte. I've tried to create situations where the conversation brings these things to the surface, but the form of reckless debate I see on every single forum makes it incredibly difficult to steer a conversation to those waters.
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The majority of jobs force you to condense yourself effectively into sound bytes. A Resume/CV and Cover letter are sound bytes. In the age of technology there is no room for full expression unless you are an artist, musician or peanut vendor. And no one will listen to you unless you sell your ideas in a clear, concise, simple and condensed package.
You may ask " What about cultural nuances and contextual subtlety" ?
The answer is...How much do anthropologists get paid?
Non-existent and Nothing.
Nikkoru:
It'd be interesting to meet an anthropologist who got into it for the money.
Maybe you can be the corrupt treasure hunter from one of the Indiana Jones films?
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