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Offline semetsu

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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #120 on: January 01, 2010, 12:33:08 PM »
I found Seitokai no Ichizon to be a wonderful title that diverges from the norm. What I think many miss about it on the first viewing is the background plot; for that you need to read between the lines and pay close attention. In many ways, I find the story within this show to be more true to life than usual... which may be why it is a little off-putting to some at first.

I for one look forward to another season.
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Offline SeventyX7

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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #121 on: January 01, 2010, 03:16:11 PM »
Most other comedy animes try to have a storyline, but focus so much on the comedy that the storyline is too poorly developed to be good, and it detracts from the anime as a whole.

Seitokai's choice to focus entirely on character development and comedy, throwing storyline to the wind, was different, and I'd say they succeeded, as well.

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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #122 on: January 11, 2010, 11:21:59 AM »
Just in case someone is interested, they used to air a companion web radio show after each episode of the anime, what made me bring this up now is that they're still doing it although the anime is already over.  They named the extra airings "after school edition" if I got the translation right.
http://newtype.kadocomic.jp/seitokai/radio/

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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #123 on: March 02, 2010, 01:10:39 AM »
Finally got around to watching the rest of Seitokai no Ichizon - and damn, that was a mess.
Now, don't get me wrong - I liked it just enough, as a comedy it's quite decent, and the girls are quite likable. But... It tries to incorporate serious motives, and fails miserably. It seems to be pretty meta at first - what with the aiming for the harem ending, eroge talk and all that. But it's just a thin decorative layer - despite the characters being aware of them, the common tropes are played ridiculously straight. Compare that to, say, Genshiken, which has a somewhat similar(albeit taken further) premise, but with much better developed personalities and relationships between the characters.
Then there's the backstory - sure, there's just enough of it to piece most of the things together(other then one thing, how exactly the girls Sugisaki was two-timing are happy now), but it's treatment is way too shallow, and it feels like a forced way to introduce the things that series seemingly made fun of as actual plot elements. Did it need to treat them seriously? At least for what was shown in the anime, definitely no.
The matter of the ending - it was okay, but only because I didn't expect any more(well, Mafuyu's throwaway confession was a bit of a bummer). But if one were to treat the backstory seriously, it would certainly seem lacking. I doubt we're going to see a second season - but OVAs are quite likely. Not to mention the series works perfectly as a commercial for the light novels.
All in all it seems like the author wanted to write a satire/subversion of the harem genre - but got stuck in the exact same patterns he was supposed to parody.
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Offline Havoc10K

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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #124 on: March 02, 2010, 07:53:15 AM »
reason why he says they are happy now was because he dissapeared from their lives and left them to grow hapiness of their own, the main problem was that the girls didn't want to give him up to another, and they were friends too, thats why he aims for harem ending, he doesn't want to limit himself to one girl (obvious) but also he doesn't want the girls to fight over him.

the backstory wasn't really revealed in much or enough detail, that is why we want to see a second season, by the end of the season the show went from pure comedy to drama with comedy forced on themselves but entertaining viewers nonetheless, well played, a girl confesses knowing the feelings of other girls, making the first move, thats how he says he achieved her route, now on to the other, we really need the second season to have this developed properly, however l have no idea if the S2 wil lcome at all.

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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #125 on: March 02, 2010, 12:51:28 PM »
I thought the lack of development was more realistic, to be honest.  In real life you don't go around talking about your biggest scars, so it made sense for them all to stay away from the deeper stuff.

Then again, that begs the question, "Why did we make this into an anime if nothing was going to happen?"   ;)

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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #126 on: March 02, 2010, 02:17:30 PM »
I thought the lack of development was more realistic, to be honest.  In real life you don't go around talking about your biggest scars, so it made sense for them all to stay away from the deeper stuff.
Oh, that's certainly true - but the way it was handled didn't make it seem like it was intentional. The writing and pacing were clumsy at best, and there was nothing realistic about the characters themselves. I wonder if the backstory was in the novels as well, and more importantly, whether it was introduced in the same way.
You know, if the characters didn't have any genre awareness I'd like it more(as just another harem anime) - but they do, and yet they act out the common stereotypes by the book. For a bit I thought that they would acknowledge playing along with the tropes, in some kind of double subversion, but that was not the case. Well, at least so far it was not. There is potential there to do something clever, something else then usual, but it's mostly wasted. And wasted potential is something I hate much more then being plainly bad.

Offline Havoc10K

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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #127 on: March 02, 2010, 03:58:31 PM »
the question is:

Do we want S2 or not, are request a vote:
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Offline SeventyX7

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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #128 on: March 02, 2010, 08:33:26 PM »
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If there's more character development and the main character ACTUALLY MAKES A CHOICE.

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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #129 on: March 03, 2010, 04:56:43 AM »
If there's more character development and the main character ACTUALLY MAKES A CHOICE.
Screw making a choice. I want the harem ending dammit! ;_;

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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #130 on: October 31, 2012, 04:35:26 AM »
Unfunny season 1 continues to another unfunny season 2


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Re: Seitokai no Ichizon
« Reply #131 on: November 01, 2012, 04:36:18 PM »
Unfunny season 1 continues to another unfunny season 2

Season 1 was awesome. Too bad I can't say the same for season 2, judging by the massive changes made to the show. The change from DEEN to AIC is the worst decision the producers could have ever made.

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They're like chatterboxes with full of random shit

And the show doesn't pretend to be anything else, either. Heck, even the show's description says that it's a parody show in which the council members chatter away.