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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2009, 04:30:12 AM »
Umm... standard operation of cars... ALL cars recently made and especially luxury cars should have automatic gear shifter. Which means you can easily pop from reverse into neutral, and neutral into drive, or drive to neutral without having to push the release lock button or w/e. But you can't go from neutral to reverse (because that causes the engine to stall if you're moving forward)

Unless neutral was jammed for whatever reason... which I doubt.
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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2009, 01:43:47 PM »
either way, I'm sure he didn't kill himself and his family intentionally...

Really the 911 guy should have been more helpful... gotta be his fault, not the car...

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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2009, 06:15:25 PM »
I won't lie, I listened to the audio before reading the article and it took me about half the clip to realize what was going on. I agree with SE, the 911 responder should have been more helpful...

Victim: "Were traveling on 125, my accelerator is stuck"
Responder: "What?"

But that really gave me the chills, I cant imagine how that responder was feeling at the time so I guess he has an excuse.
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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2009, 05:07:52 AM »
Did you see the bottom article on that page? The lady was saying "It's not just a mat problem, it's a mechanical problem."

Wtf? Bullshitting her story to make toyota take more blame? Wtf is this?

In all honesty, there should be a way for you to figure out how to deal with this especially if you had around 40 seconds and with people in the car. 10 seconds or less? Ok, I can understand. But you know what's going on, you realize the accel is stuck. Dammit, you jam the car in neutral. Don't know that? Pull at the mat. Or get someone to pull at it for you. Slide you foot under the accel. There's so much you can do. Why can't people think for once instead of having to have people tell them things?

I bet this recall mainly deals with drivers who use automatic because manual drivers at least have the sense of what to do. I can think of several ways to deal with this.

My brakes froze last winter and I still found a way to stop... on ice. Well... I drove an infinity which the past owner compromised the brake fluid with water somehow... that's why.

I also own one of the recalled cars in question... but even if it happened to me. I would have figured out immediately what to do.

The 911 responder could have been more helpful, but the guy on the other line wasn't very helpful himself.
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#1. Calm as hell, very quiet. No sense of panic, no idea what is going on.
#2. Saying stuff like "we're on 125 going 120" makes no sense at all. HIGHWAY, MPH, ROAD, CANNOT STOP are better key words. "Accelph stuck". Not a very useful phrase.
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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2009, 04:37:07 PM »
True, but wasn't the guy on the other line a cop? Its a known fact by them in their professions that staying calm gets things done more quickly.

..Of course this obviously proves that theory wrong.
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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2009, 08:23:23 PM »
True, but wasn't the guy on the other line a cop? Its a known fact by them in their professions that staying calm gets things done more quickly.

..Of course this obviously proves that theory wrong.

True, but his words we not useful at all. I'm assuming staying calm keeps you from spewing stupid crap that doesn't make sense(Like, "OMG OMG OMG OMG I'M GOING TO DIE!" etc). But this guy, even while calm was unintelligible.
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2009, 02:59:18 AM »
Truth, although I think he could have said anything and had the same outcome no matter what.

I think the real question would be, If any of us were in that position, what would we say?
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2009, 07:39:15 AM »
I am on X street and my car is OUT OF CONTROL and I am going at SPEEDS over 120. WHAT do I DO?

Keywords outlined for you.

Even if I can't get help at least I got my point across clearly.
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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2009, 08:14:19 AM »
don't forget, "tell my family I love them" 'garble garble garble splat'....

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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2009, 09:19:21 AM »
don't forget, "tell my family I love them" 'garble garble garble splat'....

For me... more like...

*sighz* Oh fuck.
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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2009, 06:18:23 AM »
Truth, although I think he could have said anything and had the same outcome no matter what.

I think the real question would be, If any of us were in that position, what would we say?


To be honest, I don't think I would worry about calling 911 and explaining the situation... ...
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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2009, 06:23:00 AM »
Truth, although I think he could have said anything and had the same outcome no matter what.

I think the real question would be, If any of us were in that position, what would we say?


To be honest, I don't think I would worry about calling 911 and explaining the situation... ...
I don't think most people would... hell even someone that doesn't drive wouldn't of, I would of either jammed it in neutral or tried to catch the pedal with my shoe, and if it looked like I had enough time had the passenger hold the steering wheel steady while I did a dive to un-jam the fucker or had them do it... So many better ways then to call 911 with half your head on.
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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2009, 09:20:13 AM »
I don't think most people would... hell even someone that doesn't drive wouldn't of, I would of either jammed it in neutral or tried to catch the pedal with my shoe, and if it looked like I had enough time had the passenger hold the steering wheel steady while I did a dive to un-jam the fucker or had them do it... So many better ways then to call 911 with half your head on.

You're quite the armchair road-smear... but really until you're in the situation... there's no way to be sure how any given person would react

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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2009, 10:26:16 PM »
Oh noes! 45 minutes? :O

That's like 45 minutes of falling down stairs, or 45 minutes choking on ramen.. without help. But hey, it could happen. D:
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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2009, 11:32:52 PM »
I blame it on automatic transmissions.  Ban them all so I never have to drive such a worthless piece of shit ever again.  The advantage?  Let's say your accelerator got stuck and your brake lines were blown, put it into neutral and let the rev limiter kill the engine then shift back into gear to use the clutch as a brake.  You'd stop the car before you'd be able to even make the 911 call.

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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2009, 10:24:57 AM »
Let's say your accelerator got stuck and your brake lines were blown, put it into neutral and let the rev limiter kill the engine then shift back into gear to use the clutch as a brake.
put it into neutral and let the rev limiter kill the engine then shift back into gear to use the clutch as a brake.
then shift back into gear to use the clutch as a brake.
use the clutch as a brake.
clutch as a brake.

Umm... the clutch IS a brake in the first place... it just isn't a vehicle brake, it's a transmission brake

what you are describing isn't clutch-braking, it is engine braking... you are using the transmission to transfer the torque from the drives into the non-firing engine as the point of resistance... If your torque limiter doesn't give first, at those speeds you are most likely going to loose traction, and probably go into a spin if you have a 2 wheel drive vehicle, or a slide if you have a 4 wheel vehicle...

you would be better off just going into neutral (and let the engine die) and steering safely past any obstacles (if you have power steering, you will want to turn the key off, and then back on (but not start the engine) if you loose steering assist... in most modern cars the steering assist doesn't require the engine actually be running

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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2009, 05:29:10 PM »
Too bad the driver(s) weren't as knowledgeable about the car(s) they were driving as those who don't drive them. I'm pretty sure that thick manual has something to do with how the car works; but that's just my guess.
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Re: oh hey, 911?
« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2009, 07:56:11 PM »
I read those manuals, hell I spent a whole day reading the one for my mums car when she got it new.
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