Innocent Venus (dual audio)...

[macros74]

AniDB

Possibilities are a-S, Blitz, RaX, ACX and Arigatou.

Arigatou seems to be the most promising, but I don't know f.e. how the release from a-S compares.

Some quotes from the Innocent Venus B-G torrent (single audio DVD rip, uses R1 source and subs):

Note: they date from over a year ago

About dual audio, Arigatou might be the best choice but it might also be a bit hard to find... Nothing against ACX but they've previously asked a few trackers to remove torrents of their releases, and the recent disappearance of 'Project Arms' on box might indicate something similar...

I've got most of Arigatou's, It shouldn't take me too much longer to get the rest -- they've got it on xdcc bots, so it isn't that hard to find. Imo Arigatou is the best choice..RaX cut out the secondary subtitle track for English audio, so that's fail right there. And ACX likes to do things like cut out next ep previews to save miniscule amounts of bitrate and disc space. Because they apparently think it's still 2001. I don't know if that's the case with Innocent Venus, but I prefer imagesub rips for ADV shows anyway, since they don't screw up the formatting.

I have the B-G release and it is fine. Speaking in general terms for other releases, Arigatou fudges up the
subtitles every now and then. So they are the suck.  I have never noticed ACX ruining the subtitles, but the
video and audio is  usually average (about the same as arigatou?). So my first choice would be B-G then
ACX and last Arigatou.

[Xiong Chiamiov]

Who wants to volunteer to grab an ep of each and provide screens?

I really dislike having DA releases without a signs-only track, unless there really aren't any semi-important signs in the show, since most people who download the DA are going to watch the dub.

[macros74]

Who wants to volunteer to grab an ep of each and provide screens?

Well, since I brought it up...

I could get an ep from a-S, ACX and Arigatou.
Blitz, like RaX, also doesn't seem to have a secondary signs track (besides having a smaller resolution), so...

Specs are (from episode 1 that is...):

720x480 anamorphic 16:9     23.976 fps H264/AVC (1001 kBit/s)         
japanese normal audio    2.0 Stereo AAC (141 kBit/s)       
english normal audio    5.1 Surround AAC (198 kBit/s)       
english soft styled subs (ASS/SSA)          
english soft styled subs (ASS/SSA)

712x400 unknown     23.976 fps H264/AVC (1108 kBit/s)         
japanese normal audio    2.0 Stereo Vorbis (Ogg Vorbis) (92 kBit/s)       
english normal audio    5.1 Surround AAC (164 kBit/s)       
english soft unstyled subs (SRT)       
english soft styled subs (ASS/SSA)          
english soft styled subs (ASS/SSA)       

720x480 anamorphic 16:9     23.976 fps H264/AVC (1230 kBit/s)         
japanese normal audio    2.0 Stereo AAC (97 kBit/s)       
english normal audio    5.1 Surround AAC (131 kBit/s)       
english soft image subs (VOBSUB)          
english soft image subs (VOBSUB)       

Edit: the ACX release does have next episode previews (all three of the above have them), but it doesn't have a separate song/signs track, it has 1 unstyled and two styled subtitle tracks.

I found the sound from the ACX release to be somewhat shrill compared to the other two.

Order: ACX/Arigatou/a-S

   

   

   

   

[Xiong Chiamiov]

Blitz, like RaX, also doesn't seem to have a secondary signs track

[snip]

Edit: the ACX release does have next episode previews (all three of the above have them), but it doesn't have a separate song/signs track,

I guess that makes it either a-S or Arigatou then.  I don't see too much difference in the video, but in the third image, a-S seems to retain more grain in the wood than Arigatou.  That, and the imagesubs in Arigatou's release[1] make me favor a-S.

I suppose we'll wait a little to see if any dissenters come in (not that anyone could ever disagree with me!), and then hit up CvP.

[1]: Imagesubs, while ugly, are incredibly readable, so I don't really dislike them all that much.  It seems that most people do, though, and I would argue that a-S's subs are actually more readable in this case.

[CvP]

Blitz, like RaX, also doesn't seem to have a secondary signs track

[snip]

Edit: the ACX release does have next episode previews (all three of the above have them), but it doesn't have a separate song/signs track,

I guess that makes it either a-S or Arigatou then.  I don't see too much difference in the video, but in the third image, a-S seems to retain more grain in the wood than Arigatou.  That, and the imagesubs in Arigatou's release[1] make me favor a-S.

I suppose we'll wait a little to see if any dissenters come in (not that anyone could ever disagree with me!), and then hit up CvP.

[1]: Imagesubs, while ugly, are incredibly readable, so I don't really dislike them all that much.  It seems that most people do, though, and I would argue that a-S's subs are actually more readable in this case.

i actually got the dvd of it yesterday night. couldn't offer as i'm too busy with studies.


thanks to macros74 for letting me know about this thread.
thanks (again) to macros74 for doing all these hard work (above)

and btw, <3 xiong 

[Xtras]

I second voting for the a-S version...

that is if we are still in the discussion stage.

[Xiong Chiamiov]

I second voting for the a-S version...

that is if we are still in the discussion stage.

Go ahead and discuss as much as you want.

and btw, <3 xiong 

Love you too, dear.