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Offline geft

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Seeding help!
« on: October 13, 2009, 12:06:53 PM »
It's been some time since my last post requesting help on how to improve my ratio, and everyone basically telling me to be patient. I have been pretty patient, seeding torrents night and day for many weeks, but my ratio barely improved. The problem deteriorates as I'm still downloading new torrents every week or two, as waiting for my ratio to recover would take several months.

It's great that huge files are downloaded very quickly, but when seeding is impossible even if you tried? Recent torrents I downloaded barely uploaded anything back even though those are huge files. It's weird that I don't have this problem when it was still boxtorrents.com, which explains my decent ratio so far. Any way to deal with this?

Offline Duki3003

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Re: Seeding help!
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2009, 12:39:52 PM »
People are giving too much credit to "Back in the day when it was still BoxTorrents", sure some things have changed and some users experienced problems right after the transition such as can't access the site without a proxy, tracker being blocked etc.

Many of those problems are related to ones local ISP - for some enabling encryption helps, for others it doesn't...


Looking into your active seeding torrents I have noticed that they are ridiculously overseeded - 220/9 - that is almost 25 seeders fighting over 1 peer - so seeding is kinda hard. Other then finding a torrent with a better seed/peer ratio only thing I can recommend you is to try enabling encryption in case your ISP is disrupting seeding, or to find ways to deal with traffic shaping...

Offline Pzc

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Re: Seeding help!
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 12:43:39 PM »
As always you'll have to find torrents with
a lot of leechers if you want to improve
your ratio. Either that or leave a lot of
torrents seeding at the same time and
wait patiently as they slowly trickle up.
Grabbing a popular free-leech torrent
might help too, zero impact on your
download but all upload counts.

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Offline geft

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Re: Seeding help!
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 01:47:41 PM »
I've been using the same ISP for years. My dozens of GBs of upload were done when it was still boxtorrents. Maybe things are just much more efficient or that seeders are a lot more generous nowadays.

I'll try the freeleech approach but I don't think it can recoup the several gigabytes I need to recover my ratio.
« Last Edit: October 13, 2009, 01:50:20 PM by geft »

Offline SomeoneElse

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Re: Seeding help!
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2009, 02:38:37 PM »
Remember that this is not the only place on the internet from which to download the releases offered here... Find a nice fat release offered here, ad go look for it elsewhere... then seed it back to here... Just make certain you are getting the same release offered here. This is especially helpful on torrents that have high a demand to supply ratio (a lot of leeches per seeder)

Offline geft

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Re: Seeding help!
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 05:00:09 PM »
I did just that on 'Uchuu Senkan Yamato: Aratanaru Tabidachi [MW]', which has a rare 37/194 ratio. I'll see how it goes.

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Re: Seeding help!
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 05:05:50 PM »
From 20/09/09 to 12/10/09 i uploaded 6.6TB. Ok, yes am on a really fast connection, but the fact i can upload that much in that time means seeding isn't impossible.

My advice would be unless you have a decent upload speed, avoid torrents with 170++ seeders, there's really not much point for you. All torrents like [Exiled-Destiny], Classics like Trigun, Black Lagoon etc, have peers coming and going all the time, seed these kind of torrents and as many freeleech as you can (Ghost in the shell 1080p movies are popular among anime watches, gundam 00 1080p is another good one...)

I hear Hentai OVA's are good aswell, but i don't really seed them.

Offline isukianime

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Re: Seeding help!
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2009, 03:01:20 PM »
Remember that this is not the only place on the internet from which to download the releases offered here... Find a nice fat release offered here, ad go look for it elsewhere... then seed it back to here... Just make certain you are getting the same release offered here. This is especially helpful on torrents that have high a demand to supply ratio (a lot of leeches per seeder)

it helps but it's still a very slow and painful process. I have about 500GB out of 3TB of anime that are the same versions as on BakaBT. I've tried uploading without downloading anything but there's not much improvement over week. So I finally bit the bullet and got a seedbox. We'll see how that goes.

Offline blubart

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Re: Seeding help!
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2009, 03:53:11 PM »
i made the experience that not the torrents with a lot of leechers (that are crawling with seeders & seedboxes most of the time too) are the best way to get some nice upload, but torrents that are of good quality or otherwise rare but have next to no seeders and leechers.
for example this torrent i adopted some month ago, it had 8 seeders at that time and up to now not more than 1 or 2 leechers at a time. nevertheless i managed to upload 17 times the torrent size with a pretty horrible connection and running utorrent only a few hours a day.
unfortunately most of my individual torrent statistics got reset (most likely in an attempt to fix the display bug *cry*) so i can't give that many hard facts. but that torrent is no exception.

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Re: Seeding help!
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 03:57:45 PM »
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The problem deteriorates as I'm still downloading new torrents every week or two, as waiting for my ratio to recover would take several months.

Surely the first thing to do is to stop downloading stuff unless its freeleech. The more you download the more you're gonna have to upload. Its just a downward spiral if you keep doing that : /

Offline isukianime

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Re: Seeding help!
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 02:47:46 PM »
I've been using the same ISP for years. My dozens of GBs of upload were done when it was still boxtorrents. Maybe things are just much more efficient or that seeders are a lot more generous nowadays.

I'll try the freeleech approach but I don't think it can recoup the several gigabytes I need to recover my ratio.

99% of the torrents here are available on thepiratebay and other sites. the only problem is that while it might take 3 hours to download 30GB here it might take a 1 or 2 weeks on the public trackers. If you can't wait that long then I suggest usenet. Your ISP should be giving you free access to them

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Re: Seeding help!
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2009, 09:15:52 PM »
while it might take 3 hours to download 30GB here it might take a 1 or 2 weeks on the public trackers.

i knew of a public tracker where i would get 30GB in less then 1 or 2 hours. unfortunately, that site has been down since June :/
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