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external HD question
ratfire666:
Just dont get the newly designed Seagates (the slim looking silver colored ). Those don't have any vent holes of any kind. I learned the hard way when my new seagate died 4 hrs after I had used it. Thats when I found out it had no ventilation whatsoever.
XinWind:
Some use fat32 from what I see still
From what I gathered from the thread was to avoid seagate lol.
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--- Quote from: Chiyachan on August 31, 2009, 10:44:37 AM ---DON'T get a seagate or a Maxtor.
They're fucking stupid.
I got a 750gb Maxtor and one of the airvents is on the bottom where it stands on.
It boils the harddrive on a warm day.
I could go on and on. But srsly, they suck suck suck.
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Yes, avoid those two. Specially Maxtor. Seagates is an upgrade of Maxtor with short or long term problems. I have a Seagate 300 GB and I'm gonna probably kill it sooner than later for pissing my computer off. Piece of shit external HDD.
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As said by Chiya and Tatsu lol.
As for me I plan on getting this one. Only problem is that it uses fat32.
Which was recommended and a few of my friends are using it which I didn't know about until the thread died out lol.
Also listen to what Kureshii said:
--- Quote from: kureshii on September 17, 2009, 02:47:42 AM ---A hard drive that is used as little as possible will likely last longer. If it's just for storage it shouldn't tax the hard drive too much, but I wouldn't recommend seeding for long periods of time off an external.
I greatly prefer mounting hard drives internally, and the basis of this preference is the increased cooling capacity provided by a good computer case (8cm-or-larger fan for ventilating hard drives, v.s. 4cm-or-smaller fan in an external enclosure, if not none at all).
On this premise, internally-mounted hard drives without forced ventilation are not much better than hard drives in an external cage (this is usually the case in a basic super-cheap computer case, and possibly in some budget pre-builts as well). If ambient temperatures and humidity are really low there, you might be able to get away with it. But I live in the tropics; humidity is typically >80%, and temperatures never go lower than 25˚C—no way I'm going to risk hard drives going unventilated here.
[Confession: Okay, so I do have an unventilated external... but I don't use it for seeding, and it's currently only being used to archive some raw data.]
If you have SMART reporting on your hard drives, check the drive temperatures. Anything above 50˚C is way too hot (unless it's an enterprise drive designed to withstand such temperatures over 24/7 operation… but why would you put such a drive in an external enclosure?), and personally I try to keep it no more than 45˚C. Ideal temperatures are probably in the 30˚C region (depending on your regional climate).
Note that even if you follow the guidelines above it is no guarantee against disk failure (just like there is no 100% guarantee against heart failure), but you certainly lower the risk of it happening by quite a bit (I think).
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--- Quote from: ratfire666 on October 21, 2009, 12:35:39 AM ---Just dont get the newly designed Seagates (the slim looking silver colored ). Those don't have any vent holes of any kind. I learned the hard way when my new seagate died 4 hrs after I had used it. Thats when I found out it had no ventilation whatsoever.
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Seagate ain't too bright are they? Whats the point of making it without any vent holes what so ever. Its obvious its going to heat up and yet they leave out the idea of prevention out of the making of it -.- Are they trying to make you buy another one after a few hrs? Is that their plan on how to make money? o.O
kenshin-dono:
ya i found it very odd seagate got recomended by a few people. I remember hearing about some horror stories with their HDs several years back.
that WD one you show looks pretty good.. but yuck fat32. Isn't that way shittier than NTSF? I thought it was much more prone to corruption. i didn't even think stuff still used it
how can you check what the HD uses? the link you showed doesn't mention file storage system
oh ya maybe a dumb question but has the actual technology changed on HD's in the past decade or so? Or is it still just several disks pressed together that magnetically store data? It just seemed like such a corruptible odd medium that i figured thered be some change in basic structure by now. I mean who the hell still uses cassette tapes =P kinda the same principle
kureshii:
Merged both external HDD threads.
XinWind:
--- Quote from: kenshin-dono on October 21, 2009, 02:02:35 AM ---ya i found it very odd seagate got recomended by a few people. I remember hearing about some horror stories with their HDs several years back.
that WD one you show looks pretty good.. but yuck fat32. Isn't that way shittier than NTSF? I thought it was much more prone to corruption. i didn't even think stuff still used it
how can you check what the HD uses? the link you showed doesn't mention file storage system
oh ya maybe a dumb question but has the actual technology changed on HD's in the past decade or so? Or is it still just several disks pressed together that magnetically store data? It just seemed like such a corruptible odd medium that i figured thered be some change in basic structure by now. I mean who the hell still uses cassette tapes =P kinda the same principle
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Look in the review for it and alot of them say its fat32 and thats the bad part about it other than that its great. lol
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