Rush vs. NFLPA

[vicious796]

Ladies and gentlemen, I never thought I would have to write something like this. Fabrications have been made in the news, not by Fox, but by ESPN and MSNBC. Lead by people who make their living off of racism (ie Al Sharpton) they have accused Rush Limbaugh of stating "Slavery had its merits, the streets were safer at night" or something to that effect with no citation, no proof, no record, just a "disputed" wikipedia entry by "Cobra" who cited a book written in 2006 (also with no citation within it) though the original accusation was in 2005. They claim this was said in 1998, however it has never surfaced before. 11 years? 11 years this kind of comment went unnoticed? Please.

I am disgusted with the media and have been for quite some time. True journalism is dead. A real journalist cites his sources and KNOWS that they are correct. These "professionals" are supposed to be the ones sifting through the "sewers" as they call it (internet) and giving out facts. Fox seems to take the most heat, despite having the highest viewer base in the country, for fabricating stories. Why, oh why, are they not being called out?

On top of that, the spin makes it seem that he, alone, is attempting to buy the St. Louis Rams when, in fact, he's a minority investor.

Really, when it comes down to it, even if he did say it, why should that prohibit him from making a financial investment in a business? If he has the money and believes he can get a return, why does it matter? Why is Al Sharpton even a part of this?

[Semnae]

Ladies and gentlemen, I never thought I would have to write something like this. Fabrications have been made in the news, not by Fox, but by ESPN and MSNBC. Lead by people who make their living off of racism (ie Al Sharpton) they have accused Rush Limbaugh of stating "Slavery had its merits, the streets were safer at night" or something to that effect with no citation, no proof, no record, just a "disputed" wikipedia entry by "Cobra" who cited a book written in 2006 (also with no citation within it) though the original accusation was in 2005. They claim this was said in 1998, however it has never surfaced before. 11 years? 11 years this kind of comment went unnoticed? Please.

Here's a site that's tried to source many of the quotes.  Even if Rush didn't say many of the things he's been accused of saying, he doesn't make any effort to hide his racism.  Even so, this doesn't excuse the media spin.

I am disgusted with the media and have been for quite some time. True journalism is dead. A real journalist cites his sources and KNOWS that they are correct. These "professionals" are supposed to be the ones sifting through the "sewers" as they call it (internet) and giving out facts. Fox seems to take the most heat, despite having the highest viewer base in the country, for fabricating stories. Why, oh why, are they not being called out?

On top of that, the spin makes it seem that he, alone, is attempting to buy the St. Louis Rams when, in fact, he's a minority investor.

I am also irritated by the media lately.  Just the other day I was seeing several misleading headlines like, "Republican Olympia Snowe to Support Healthcare Bill". She only voted it out of committee, and has not indicated whether or not she will support the bill once it sees the Senate floor.

The media is a business, and they will do whatever is most profitable.  This usually involves sensationalizing everything.  It's important to remember that when you watch or read the news.

Really, when it comes down to it, even if he did say it, why should that prohibit him from making a financial investment in a business? If he has the money and believes he can get a return, why does it matter?

Rush's minority ownership could hurt sales and make ownership less profitable for the other investors in a variety of ways.  Public image is extremely important to any business who's profit is completely dependent upon having fans.  Even as a minority investor, he would have a say in employing scouts and managers for the team.  It's not hard to imagine what kind of people Rush would want to hire.

Why is Al Sharpton even a part of this?

Al Sharpton contributed to Rush being dropped from the bid because he and Rush are enemies.  He needs no other reason than spite, but I'm sure he also received a good amount of publicity and support from this as well.

[vicious796]

Regardless, Rush is out.

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2009/10/its-official-rush-limbaugh-out-of-checketts-group/

[relic2279]

Rush Limbaugh is the lowest of low.

Got busted for heavy drug use, yet says,

"What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use, too many whites are getting away with drug sales, too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."
-- Rush Limbaugh. October 5, 1995 show transcript.

Somehow he still has a show, and is still popular despite being wrong on nearly everything he says, and is a hypocrite of the highest order. The guy is a complete moron, a hypocrite, a liar, a racist and anti-American. And again, somehow he still has a show. The ignorance of this country baffles and befuddles me.

If neo-con supporters took 'actions speak louder than words' to heart, there would be no neo-cons. Even in this corrupt system we live in. Which says alot.

[vicious796]

But that does that discredit his successful business? Does that mean he doesn't have the right to be a minority investor, who would have no control over an organization, to make extra money and support something he enjoys?

I've done drugs, several of them, and my abuse of them cost me alot on a personal level. I've learned from my mistakes and have encouraged my friends to do the same. Does that make me a hypocrit? Or does that just make me someone who's been enlightened and wants to help?

[relic2279]

But that does that discredit his successful business? Does that mean he doesn't have the right to be a minority investor, who would have no control over an organization, to make extra money and support something he enjoys?

In the business world, it's known as a conflict of interest. And yes, it does bring harm to the business that is the NFL. Seeing as a large portion of them are black, and their fan base is lower or middle class.

It'd be like Richard Dawkins buying stake in an alternate universe where most of the NFL's players and fans are nutty creationists.

So as far as the business aspect goes, it would be a severe conflict of interest and he shouldn't own a part of a team.     

I've done drugs, several of them, and my abuse of them cost me alot. Does that make me a hypocrit? Or does that just make me someone who's been enlightened and wants to help?

Were you preaching against drugs before you were doing them, while you were doing them and after like the waste of a human life Rush Limbaugh? If so, yes. That makes you a hypocrite.

[kyanwan]

Were you preaching against drugs before you were doing them, while you were doing them and after like the waste of a human life Rush Limbaugh? If so, yes. That makes you a hypocrite.

If I were to label wastes of human life, I would look towards Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, and people who read People Magazine.

Joy Behar - she's REAL close to that.   She seems smart ... so ... I guess she's not a full waste. 

Rush - as abrasive as he may be to people - at least he's half-ass smart.  Same with Al Franken / Bill Maher. 

[ I can think of someone the typical Republican would hate - Michael Moore - but, I kind of like the guy.   I seriously hope he does a documentary on SCHOOLS next.   Because I heard him make a comment, that I agree with - 150%.  "Kids have too much homework.   They've become antisocial because they have no free time to go out and be ... kids."   Don't really feel comfortable with the whole communist/socialist thing, though.  ]

[vicious796]

But that does that discredit his successful business? Does that mean he doesn't have the right to be a minority investor, who would have no control over an organization, to make extra money and support something he enjoys?

In the business world, it's known as a conflict of interest. And yes, it does bring harm to the business that is the NFL. Seeing as a large portion of them are black, and their fan base is lower or middle class.

It'd be like Richard Dawkins buying stake in an alternate universe where most of the NFL's players and fans are nutty creationists.

So as far as the business aspect goes, it would be a severe conflict of interest and he shouldn't own a part of a team.     

I've done drugs, several of them, and my abuse of them cost me alot. Does that make me a hypocrit? Or does that just make me someone who's been enlightened and wants to help?

Were you preaching against drugs before you were doing them, while you were doing them and after like the waste of a human life Rush Limbaugh? If so, yes. That makes you a hypocrite.

Overcoming that "conflict of interest" only speaks more to his ability to lead a successful business. That's the bottom line with me, he starts with very little and rose to "stardom". Period. Don't like him? Doesn't matter, he's making money. I don't particurally care for him but I'll never say he isn't good at what he does.

Disliking someone is not a good enough reason to be a bad reporter. It's very childish what they're doing - stating misinformation as fact. Most people who criticize Rush have never listened to his show, like really listened to it. What they "hear" are clips that are recorded and taken way out of context. He's not as controversial as everyone makes him out to be and - believe it or not - has some good points every now and then. If he didn't, I don't think he'd be so well known.

I'm ashamed of these "journalists" and "reporters" who have shown nothing but bias while claiming to report the facts. This is why I dropped my journalism major - journalism is dead. Real journalism died in the 90s when "opinion columns" started taking over and people tuned in to the O'Reily Factor or whatever to get their "opinions". Nothing but second-hand garbage. This is also why I'm not a big fan of Rush - alot of people takes his words and try to make them their own. They just can't back anything up when you question them because they haven't done the research themselves.

I can't even read the damn newspaper anymore because all it is is opinion columns. That's it - no news just thoughts. People are too stupid to come up with their own opinons and their own ideas these days - which is why this firestorm of bull shit escalated. People heard on the news that Rush said this and they take it as fact without doing ANY research at all. Just because they're too lazy. If you're not smart enough to double check your sources don't fucking talk to me.