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If net neutrality fails, this is what you should expect...
Nikran:
--- Quote from: kurandoinu on October 28, 2009, 10:02:08 PM ---Surely this would harm companies like ebay and amazon? It would push people away from using them because they'd have to pay extra for it.
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I would have thought such a business modal would be a double edged sword. From my understanding it would increase profits of ISP's, but other internet based companies would suffer very badly. It would probably damaged the economy alot in the end.
I seriously hope this shit never gets implimented :-\
Drew:
If this actually went through I would move to and become the citizen of another country.
Borror0:
--- Quote from: Nikran on October 28, 2009, 10:24:29 PM ---It would probably damaged the economy alot in the end.
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Not only the economy but progress as well.
Aesthesis:
--- Quote from: relic2279 on October 28, 2009, 06:14:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Aesthesis on October 28, 2009, 05:43:03 PM ---Scary stuff, but practically impossible. It obviously makes no sense in the world of business; turning a free market as large as the internet into a subscription service would instantly kill off most of the new websites and businesses purely because they're not famous enough to be put into one of these packages.
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I think you misunderstand, you'll still have access to joeblow.com in this hypothetical situation, it's just the larger websites that people visit and suck up bandwidth, like youtube etc will cost extra. Basically, the large websites become premium sites.
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Oh right... That makes much more sense. Especially if the premium websites are still accessible to all but only premium users get good bandwidth. Still what's to stop people just migrating to other websites that don't cost extra? If the big popular sites cost more then they will simply cease to be popular, I guess I can see how some people like certain sites enough that they'd pay extra to visit but there will always be alternatives for people who don't want to pay. It would be tragic though, so much awesome otherwise free content reduced to a drip feed and ultimately lost.
kyanwan:
--- Quote from: relic2279 on October 28, 2009, 05:02:01 PM ---Good competition just not possible in the US.
Most cities have 2, or just 1 ISP. So the local market is either a duopoly or a monopoly. Right now I use Time Warner cable. My only other option is Verizon DSL. Even if someone wanted to say, start their own ISP, invest tons of money laying the fiber, one of their big business competitors will just buy them.
There is almost no competition in the ISP market. At least here in the US anyways.
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This ... ISPs ... really isn't a problem here.
What I would pin this whole issue on is telecommunication consolidation. Too many people owning too much market share, companies getting too big.
Plus the resurrection of Ma Bell under her new name: AT&T.
This filthy bastard we all know as George "worthless" Bush - yeah - that guy - opened too many doors for bastardry.
But dig a little deeper and we find this issue: hard line ownership
Too many people owning the hard wires that drive the net. Hard copper line is a lot more difficult to lay - and requires huge monetary investment. Not many people can afford it - other than the people who already did it, or bloated behemoth companies like ... Ma Bell II.
Now, there is some hope - which is - high speed wireless. Part of this "net neutrality" ( which I agree with ) - should be a restriction on future high-speed wireless data ownership, jamming/disruption, and coverage areas. No sole company should be allowed to dominate any market - as no hard wires are required. Licensing should be required, but easily attainable.
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Yeah.
I might be highly conservative with money and certain issues, but with Telecom & Internet - I'm 100% on the liberal/progressive side. Any regulation / restriction / tiering - will destroy the net as we know it. It should be allowed to remain as-is. If you want a product that works like TV - make one that works like TV. Leave my internet alone. These myths that people "aren't making enough money" or "are getting free service" - are just that: myths.
The content provider pays an arm and a leg. The content consumer pays their fair share. Everyone pays. If you're inefficient and your employees & executives are overpaid - cry me a river. The market has spoken, and you're making your fair share.
Besides.
I have very, very little mercy for people who hire outsourced foreign labor. Shitty bastards.
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