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Offline BuriaL

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Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« on: November 12, 2009, 06:20:26 PM »
One of the encoding programs i like is viritual dub. But for some reason it needs codecs, since i apparently mostly have decoding codecs.
Anyone know where to find them?

Iam allso looking for some good video editing software.

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2009, 09:06:05 PM »
Anyone know where to find them?

XD surely you jest =D teh wibblenet silly.. or were you needing something specific?

Iam allso looking for some good video editing software.

If you like virtualdub I suppose you would like megui, but it depends what you mean by 'video editing'. What do you want to do with it?

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2009, 09:39:43 PM »
Video editing or video post-processing?
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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2009, 01:57:12 AM »

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2009, 05:54:00 PM »
Allready have megui, it works. Only seem to encode H264 and xvid tho. And unless ive missed something its only for encoding, not editing.

Ive allready googled around a bit, seems to come up a bunch of codecs for decoding..not what i need.
If its so obvius where to find it, you could link it Slykester.

By editing i mean cutting, resizing, adding effects, etc..


"Google is youre friend" i know. Yeah why did i even ask. Only get patronized and none the wiser..

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2009, 06:28:14 PM »
i'm used to the Adobe Workflow, so my recommendation for video editing would be Premiere Pro interlocking with After Effects for post processing/compositing. those programs are of course not exactly free - more like 2200€ if you can't benefit from a university program (where it is still around 250€ including photoshop, illustrator and flash) or alike.
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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2009, 06:40:05 PM »
whenever I want to edit I go alltoavi and then work from the avi file

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2009, 02:29:36 AM »
I love it how people come in here to be spoonfed.
If you'd bothered to search google, you may have found something.
If you'd bothered to search our forums, you would definitely have found something, because people have been asking questions like that for years.

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2009, 04:21:30 AM »
I love it how people come in here to be spoonfed.
If you'd bothered to search google, you may have found something.
If you'd bothered to search our forums, you would definitely have found something, because people have been asking questions like that for years.

I agree 96.33% to that but sometimes Id rather get a reply by some people which are familiar to me . . .well defining familiar as . . .usernames that I see often. . .but yes. . .the forum is filled with these ones.

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2009, 04:33:01 AM »
Hmm, I dunno, it's nice talking to people I see online regularly I guess, but sometimes I'd rather not hear their opinion on certain matters if I know they're not really all that knowledgeable about them.

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2009, 11:42:44 AM »
I love it how people come in here to be spoonfed.
If you'd bothered to search google, you may have found something.
If you'd bothered to search our forums, you would definitely have found something, because people have been asking questions like that for years.

Yeah i like to be spoonfed. *dons a black nappy with a jolly roger, and whip out a yellow plastic spoon.*

Ive allready tested alot of software. Its mostly just shit, even the supposedly proffesional stuff.
And about the magical google. Wikipedia were actualy a bigger help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2009, 11:53:07 AM »
Have you tried Sony Vegas?

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2009, 02:01:06 PM »
Allready have megui, it works. Only seem to encode H264 and xvid tho. And unless ive missed something its only for encoding, not editing.

Ive allready googled around a bit, seems to come up a bunch of codecs for decoding..not what i need.
If its so obvius where to find it, you could link it Slykester.

By editing i mean cutting, resizing, adding effects, etc..

Using avisynth gives you a hell of a lot of control. Cutting, resizing are all easy tasks. If by adding effects you mean post-processing then that's easy too ;) No software to pirate either.

The encoder executable is usually included with a downloadable package from the developer site. i.e. x264.nl for avc. One of the benefits of megui is that it has a feature to download these packages for you. The idea is the same with virtualdub, but is a longer process.

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2009, 02:15:12 PM »
Adobe premiere + after effects = hard learning curve but better in the long run.
Sony Vegas PRO (normal version sucks) + Vegas plugins (Pixelan, NewBlue etc) =  easy learning curve but is limited once you learn most things.

extras ; Photoshop, Particle Illusion, Boris Graffiti

Essential ; AviSynth & AvSP, VirtualDUB, Lagarith lossless codec, Zarx264 (x264 mp4 encoding) or Xvid 1.2.1 (fail xvid avi encoding)

Only edit footage with Lagarith, or Huffy if your PC is fail.

I cba to spoonfeed you all the links aswell though.

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2009, 07:46:14 PM »
Real men edit and compose their videos fully in AviSynth.

Also, MeGUI is for lazy, stupid and ignorant people, just learn to use x264 via CLI, you're better off that way. Seriously.

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2009, 08:39:28 PM »
There's nothing wrong with MeGUI.  Sharktooths profiles are great.

Anyway.  I use a combination of things depending on what I'm working on and what to do.

TMPGenc Xpress 4,  offers everything you have asked about.  It even have some pretty decent filters and CUDA support for them (so if you have a Nvidia GPU that supports CUDA, you can run your filters on the GPU and decrease encoding time).

However when I am working with really bad sources, or stuff that needs to be deinterlaced in funny ways, etc I will switch over to Avisynth / Vdub.

For finished DVD, Blu-Ray, or DivX Ultra (DVD menus) projects, I'd go to something like TMPGenc Authoring Works 4.
Otherwise I'll jump over to MeGUI and do an x264 2-pass with one of Sharktooths profiles.   Then mux it up into an MKV if it needs multiple tracks.

So you have quite a few options.   TMPGenc's stuff obviously can be "found" in various places, but its really a fair price for what their tools can do compared to  Complicated crap like  Vega, Premiere, and other "Pro" tools which I find too complicated and useless for my needs.

After you get your tools, its a matter of reading.  Google, Videohelp, Doom9.   All you need to learn stuff.

As for the Google trolls,  BFD,  at least he said he had tried looking and wasn't finding the answers he needed.   Beats the hell out of the 99% of people that just don't bother to try in the first place.

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2009, 09:24:37 PM »
iMovie FTW?

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2009, 09:50:54 PM »
Have you tried Sony Vegas?

Just tried it(Pro 9). Needed quicktime, after installing that it still wont open a bunch of media files.
Maybe its great, ill never know.

Allready have megui, it works. Only seem to encode H264 and xvid tho. And unless ive missed something its only for encoding, not editing.

Ive allready googled around a bit, seems to come up a bunch of codecs for decoding..not what i need.
If its so obvius where to find it, you could link it Slykester.

By editing i mean cutting, resizing, adding effects, etc..

Using avisynth gives you a hell of a lot of control. Cutting, resizing are all easy tasks. If by adding effects you mean post-processing then that's easy too ;) No software to pirate either.

The encoder executable is usually included with a downloadable package from the developer site. i.e. x264.nl for avc. One of the benefits of megui is that it has a feature to download these packages for you. The idea is the same with virtualdub, but is a longer process.

Dont know much about avisynth, exept that it pops up in megui :P maybe ill have to read about it if its that great.
Nice :) i like virtualdub.

Ill take a look at the other suggestions later.

Apple software is not an option gogeta, sorry. iMovies looks nice tho.

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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2009, 02:53:56 AM »
Real men use all-in-one video converters.  :P
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Re: Encoding "codecs", and video editing software
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2009, 07:30:55 PM »
Real men use all-in-one video converters.  :P

I recently figured out that I needed to edit and compress some stuff, so Vegas does the editing and SUPER © the encoding. Seems solid for me so far.

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Removed SUPER © link, since I really have no idea how spyware safe it is.
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