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Eseuldor:
So the consensus is as follows, If you don't think Kamina was brave and subsequently the most epic of the epicfolk in all epicdom and prefer to think of him as someone who invariably caused more trouble than he resolved, then your apparently not knowledgeable about the human species and should only watch Poke'mon.

That alone spells out a lot about the Kamina fans...

AceD:
Obviously Excalibur is the most epic of the epicfolk in all epicdom.

BrownMasterV:
I always saw Kamina as a parody of the overly manly characters of most shounen anime.
Regardless of his bravery (or stupidity), he was still fucking awesome ;)

@deathman and Fool010 both of you really need to stop thinking so much. (although Fool is doing most of the thinking)

Just like they say in the anime "Go beyond the impossible and kick reason to the curb!" i.e. don't rely on reason while watching this show.

Fool010:
I don't mind TTGL going overboard, but at some point the series went to places I didn't want to go. I enjoyed the first arc, which I found to be fresh and entertaining, but everything after that got drowned in an ever increasing stream of overkill. I consider the series to be a prime example of the too much of a good thing principle. What irks me the most about Kamina is that he lacks any of the shades and cracks that could've made him more than a cardboard cutout silhouette. From a purely narrative point of view, his sole purpose was to die because the shock of his disappearence was needed to fuel further events. My problem is I never got attached to him, therefore I felt nothing when he went away.
I do regret Gainax didn't choose to make a pure parody, because then I would've been able to enjoy to a further extent. But then again, I should not complain that something that doesn't target me doesn't respond to my expectations. I reacted because I read some lines I couldn't agree with. There's no topic you can't disagree on and having most of the people having the same opinion still doesn't mean there's no reason to disagree.
On a side note, maybe I've lost the ability to feel enthousiasm ... if I ever had it at some point, but that's a matter of personal life experience. Analysing causes and consequences, even in human relationships is a main component in my line of work and it has turned into a second nature for me. It's not something I can turn off at will.

eme13:

--- Quote from: Fool010 on September 27, 2010, 09:31:34 PM ---I don't mind TTGL going overboard, but at some point the series went to places I didn't want to follow it. I enjoyed the first arc, which i found to be fresh and entertaining, but everything after that got drowned in an ever increasing stream of overkill. I consider the series to be a prime example of the too much of a good thing principle.
What irks me the most about Kamina is that he lacks any of the shades and cracks that could've made him more than a cardboard cutout silhouette.
From a purely narrative point of view, his sole purpose was to die because the shock of his disappearence was needed to fuel further events. My problem is I never got attached to him, therefore I felt nothing when he went away.
I do regret Gainax didn't choose to make a pure parody, because then I would've been able to enjoy to a further extent. But then again, I should not complain that something that doesn't target me doesn't respond to my expectations.
I reacted because I read some lines I couldn't agree with. There's no topic you can't disagree on and having most of the people having the same opinion still doesn't mean there's no reason to disagree.
On a side note, maybe I've lost the ability to feel enthousiasm ... if I ever had it at some point, but that's a matter of personal life experience. Analysing causes and consequences, even in human relationships is a main component in my line of work and it has turned into a second nature for me. It's not something I can turn off at will.


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I'll agree that the way Kamina's character was written, he was purely a plot device so that Simon could take center stage as the one to basically kick ass and take names later. BUT~~ I will totally disagree that he was a "cardboard cutout." Sure, he wasn't around for a very long time, and sure, you might not have grown as attached to him as other characters, but the night before they went into battle, he admitted to others that he too was scared, but he found a lot of his courage in Simon, and that he had his own reasons to fight.

For me, when Kamina died, it was like, "is that really it? Isn't he supposed to be the one to take it all the way?" IT was only AFTER he died that I loved his character all the more, because if he hadn't have died, then nothing would have really changed. I know how much of a crap answer that sounds like, but it's like... how many characters in anime die, and then never get brought up again, thus cheapening the importance of their role in the story? Lots, right? But Kamina's character constantly got brought up and sourced as the one of the things that helped drive Simon and others to keep up the good fight.

As for the show being a parody/satire, I think that maybe at first that's how they wanted to hook viewers, but I don't really think that was their intent all along. IT's kind of like... expecting Sengoku Basara to follow history 100%. No, part of the reason I loved Sengoku Basara was because it was ridiculous, but then you have the "shit just got real" moments, just like in TTGL.


--- Quote from: AceD on September 27, 2010, 09:09:30 PM ---Obviously Excalibur is the most epic of the epicfolk in all epicdom.

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Agreed that Excalibur is AMAZING.

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