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France shows off cutting-edge navy ship in Russia
sdedalus83:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on December 03, 2009, 04:33:37 AM ---Russians should just design a successor to their Zubr class amphibious landing craft that has a speed of 60 knots....
Actually if those were deployed from some huge slow cargo ship, it would still be effective as hell.
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You mean like this?
AceHigh:
No, I believe Zubr is too big to fit into the Wasp class. Don't get me wrong, Wasp class is a really good landing ship, but I believe that Zubr would need something of a different design or just a bigger launch bay. I mean Zubre is the worlds largest military hovercraft and it's length is 57 meters and has a cargo area of 400 square meters. I wonder what it was deployed from during the Soviet union times, i guess just from a shore or docks.
sdedalus83:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on December 03, 2009, 04:52:26 AM ---No, I believe Zubr is too big to fit into the Wasp class. Don't get me wrong, Wasp class is a really good landing ship, but I believe that Zubr would need something of a different design or just a bigger launch bay. I mean Zubre is the worlds largest military hovercraft and it's length is 57 meters and has a cargo area of 400 square meters. I wonder what it was deployed from during the Soviet union times, i guess just from a shore or docks.
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You just have to carry it on top :P
We should have offered to sell the Tarawa to the Russians rather than scrapping it. It's still better than half of the non-American carriers currently deployed, and it could probably carry a couple of mini-Zubrs, each capable of delivering a tank or a few armored transports. Probably not the best idea for the Russians though. Any military action on their part will probably be close enough to one of their own air force bases to make Harriers pointless.
AntiPaladin:
There's no way you could build a ship to carry multiples of something as large as a Zubr. Each one is the size of 4 LCACs, and that's the entire load for a Whidbey-class LSD. You'd need something the size of a small island to haul 2-3 Zubr, which would limit its use for amphibious assaults.
I prefer that we're scrapping the Tarawa. If Russia is willing to purchase new ships that are inferior to what we're turning into razorblades, then by all means, let them waste their cash rather than give them something decent to purchase.
darkjedi:
sdedalus83 is a pragmatic strategist. If the U.S. could sell secondhand ships to Russia and earn some money out of it while not radically altering the strategic balance, it's most beneficial for the U.S. to do so and political prejudices and idealism shouldn't stand in its way. Unfortunately many American politicians don't share his point of view. (I believe neoconservative ideals are what has always been driving U.S.'s diplomatic overtures throughout its modern history; World War, Cold War, Clinton and Bush's administration; I dunno about Obama now - the halting of F-22 production and the cancellation and curtailing of many of its top-agenda military projects seem to indicate a change but I don't know how much role the global recession played in it)
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