Author Topic: Nvdia Rules (Read 3870 times)

rheffera · « **Reply #20 on:** November 24, 2009, 02:33:00 PM »

Of course.

molbjerg · « **Reply #21 on:** November 24, 2009, 02:38:21 PM »

Oh. You better get an ATI then

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rheffera · « **Reply #22 on:** November 24, 2009, 02:52:23 PM »

Hmm its a different problem than to before though. Before i could have high res and color. driver issue me thinks

fohfoh · « **Reply #23 on:** November 24, 2009, 02:54:51 PM »

Quote from: rheffera on November 24, 2009, 02:27:49 PM

Well reinstalling didnt help. it detects the card ok; but its stuck on 4bit color! changing it shuts down my monitor.

Noob, spend the extra money on a less shitty OS. 7 Home Premium sounds about the level of usefulness that XPx64 gives you BUT isn't as fail. Not to mention you get DX10 and later... 11.

You really don't need professional or ultimate for windows 7.

rheffera · « **Reply #24 on:** November 24, 2009, 03:39:19 PM »

*cough* after installing windows xp 32 bit i have discovered the card works fine.

Time to get a new OS. Many Apologies for the rage. Also, Nvidia stimulates me in a way you cant put on tv.

Smokeyjr2 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 25, 2009, 12:36:51 AM »

Quote from: fohfoh on November 24, 2009, 02:54:51 PM

Quote from: rheffera on November 24, 2009, 02:27:49 PM
Well reinstalling didnt help. it detects the card ok; but its stuck on 4bit color! changing it shuts down my monitor.

Noob, spend the extra money on a less shitty OS. 7 Home Premium sounds about the level of usefulness that XPx64 gives you BUT isn't as fail. Not to mention you get DX10 and later... 11.

You really don't need professional or ultimate for windows 7.

Money??? i got my windows 7 ultimate for free

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rheffera · « **Reply #26 on:** December 06, 2009, 10:42:19 PM »

I just want to point out for the record that the problem lies with the drivers (not the OS) as the same problem has been reported on win7 and vista. So a big F**k off to the people who are blaming it on xp.

AceD · « **Reply #27 on:** December 06, 2009, 11:00:09 PM »

Quote from: rheffera on November 24, 2009, 01:12:50 PM

(and given that im an ATI fanboy ill be mildly unhappy in doing it). But i doubt it will work.

Why are you an ATI fanboy? because Nvidia makes superior cards...its fact, and Nvidia is far more widely recognised by gaming companies to boot...even the damn H264 decoders we use to watch anime...use Nvidia cuda.

Really...people only buy ATI because there cheap (same reason you buy AMD)...i guess some people still cling to the fact ATI was ok 5 years ago $:-\$

rheffera · « **Reply #28 on:** December 06, 2009, 11:13:12 PM »

Quote from: AceD on December 06, 2009, 11:00:09 PM

Why are you an ATI fanboy? because Nvidia makes superior cards...its fact, and Nvidia is far more widely recognised by gaming companies to boot...even the damn H264 decoders we use to watch anime...use Nvidia cuda.

Really...people only buy ATI because there cheap (same reason you buy AMD)...i guess some people still cling to the fact ATI was ok 5 years ago $:-\$

Meh Well im kinda indifferent to Both manufacturers now. Nvidia is plagued with driver issues and ATI cards have tiny heatsinks that are hard to clean etc etc. As for cuda; i have been using it a bit to convert videos but i think its still in its infancy & if you use it all the time itll burn out your card.

So meh. Both are bad.

Xtras · « **Reply #29 on:** December 06, 2009, 11:21:07 PM »

Agreed, if I had my way I'd be Intel/Nvidia all the way. Right now however, that Radeon 4770 is just too awesome to pass up, Simply because it is the best card that my meager PSU can handle.

Only reason why I am avoiding Nvidia right now is that a ton of legal complications is stifling an otherwise awesome company. ATI hasn't given me any bad experiences yet, and it is cheap so I figure, why not.

AceD · « **Reply #30 on:** December 06, 2009, 11:30:22 PM »

Quote from: rheffera on December 06, 2009, 11:13:12 PM

As for cuda; i have been using it a bit to convert videos but i think its still in its infancy & if you use it all the time itll burn out your card.

I dunno about that, i use a pair of BFG GTX260's in SLI, had them about 1 year now roughly i think...i use CUDA all the time, and i watch 3/4 hours anime a day at least...there both still in top condition.

rheffera · « **Reply #31 on:** December 07, 2009, 12:03:30 AM »

Quote from: AceD on December 06, 2009, 11:30:22 PM

I dunno about that, i use a pair of BFG GTX260's in SLI, had them about 1 year now roughly i think...i use CUDA all the time, and i watch 3/4 hours anime a day at least...there both still in top condition.

Hmm Im just being cautious because ive heard rumors of people ruining their cards (GTX 275's) because they ran Intensive (not simple anime watching) CUDA apps 24/7. In any event; cuda is nice but i think it can be improved alot more,

zherok · « **Reply #32 on:** December 07, 2009, 12:09:32 AM »

Quote from: AceD on December 06, 2009, 11:30:22 PM

I dunno about that, i use a pair of BFG GTX260's in SLI, had them about 1 year now roughly i think...i use CUDA all the time, and i watch 3/4 hours anime a day at least...there both still in top condition.

SLI is probably a bit overkill for just running anime, isn't it?

I've had no issues with a 4650 in my laptop. Would an nVidia chip have been better? I dunno, but I suspect other components would bottleneck the thing quicker than the video card.

Excale · « **Reply #33 on:** December 07, 2009, 04:41:07 AM »

Truth be told, ATI is ahead in the performance area currently as in TODAY. In a single care system, yes. My proof?
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
The top two places are ATI Radeon 5870 and 5850. The gap, 500/300 point difference respectively.

fohfoh · « **Reply #34 on:** December 07, 2009, 05:06:44 AM »

Quote from: Excale on December 07, 2009, 04:41:07 AM

Truth be told, ATI is ahead in the performance area currently as in TODAY. In a single care system, yes. My proof?
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
The top two places are ATI Radeon 5870 and 5850. The gap, 500/300 point difference respectively.

So you're saying that within the last year, ATi has pulled a "Tortoise and the hare"? damnnn....

Lupin · « **Reply #35 on:** December 07, 2009, 08:26:49 AM »

Quote from: AceD on December 06, 2009, 11:00:09 PM

Why are you an ATI fanboy? because Nvidia makes superior cards...its fact, and Nvidia is far more widely recognised by gaming companies to boot...even the damn H264 decoders we use to watch anime...use Nvidia cuda.

Really...people only buy ATI because there cheap (same reason you buy AMD)...i guess some people still cling to the fact ATI was ok 5 years ago $:-\$

Uh no. I smell an nvidia fan boy.

ATI has superior cards right now performance and price wise. The one thing nVidia has an advantage is it's more mature drivers and gpgpu support.

AceD · « **Reply #36 on:** December 07, 2009, 09:16:33 AM »

Quote from: zherok on December 07, 2009, 12:09:32 AM

Quote from: AceD on December 06, 2009, 11:30:22 PM
I dunno about that, i use a pair of BFG GTX260's in SLI, had them about 1 year now roughly i think...i use CUDA all the time, and i watch 3/4 hours anime a day at least...there both still in top condition.
SLI is probably a bit overkill for just running anime, isn't it?

Well i do play games abit aswell, Dragon age, WoW...and stuff when i got some time :|

Quote from: Lupin on December 07, 2009, 08:26:49 AM

Quote from: AceD on December 06, 2009, 11:00:09 PM
Why are you an ATI fanboy? because Nvidia makes superior cards...its fact, and Nvidia is far more widely recognised by gaming companies to boot...even the damn H264 decoders we use to watch anime...use Nvidia cuda.

Really...people only buy ATI because there cheap (same reason you buy AMD)...i guess some people still cling to the fact ATI was ok 5 years ago $:-\$
Uh no. I smell an nvidia fan boy.

Not at all, when am searching for a new gcard/s, i just pick which i think is best at the time, regardless of if its ATI or Nvidia. Although i am a fan of CUDA, yes.

zherok · « **Reply #37 on:** December 07, 2009, 09:51:53 AM »

Quote from: AceD on December 07, 2009, 09:16:33 AM

Well i do play games abit aswell, Dragon age, WoW...and stuff when i got some time :|

Still probably overkill for those, I suspect. At least, Dragon Age runs fine at 1600x900 on my laptop anyway.

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Although i am a fan of CUDA, yes.

I'll admit, CUDA would be nice, although I watch so little anime I'm not sure I'd ever take advantage of it. My laptop caps at the above resolution, so 1080p media isn't really worth bothering with over 720p stuff (and it's a hell of a lot smaller.) That said it was kinda irking to see soft-subbed karaoke intros kick my machine's ass for reasons I'm not quite sure of.

With some tweaking I managed to get the AIR opening theme here working without skipping or frame dropping on my ATI using Laptop. CUDA would have helped, I'm sure, although I'm curious whether this sort of encode is very common. Again I don't really watch much anime and I have little reason to aim for the system raping 1080p blu-ray rips, but would be nice to know how easy it is to run into that sort of system stopper.

Lupin · « **Reply #38 on:** December 07, 2009, 02:43:55 PM »

I find it amusing that fanboys deny that they are fanboys.

sdedalus83 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 07, 2009, 02:54:10 PM »

For video playback, DXVA on an ATI card is only slightly less capable than CUDA acceleration. I doubt you're using CUDA for anything more demanding than that.

Once OpenCL goes mainstream CUDA will be relegated to a few highly specialized niches. It'll be interesting to see how willing nVidia is to enable full OpenCL support on their mainstream cards because it has the potential to kill off the market for their Quadro cards. ATI has much less incentive to pull some bullshit stunt since their footprint in the professional graphics market is much, much smaller.