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Decided on my Career
harpy:
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--- Quote from: harpy on December 08, 2009, 06:56:54 PM ---I do not feel like I am using it, but people who know me and so on say that I do, even the way I speak and compose my sentences, speech, arguments and so on(in my native language of course) are totally changed
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I wouldn't say that that was a direct result of getting a philosophy degree, but as a result of simply getting a degree.
Because you are in a formal environment for so long you adapt to the formal culture, using long coherent sentences is the norm in higher educational culture so you adopt that behaviour and it seeps into your everyday life, but I do agree that by completing a degree you gain knowledge over and above the knowledge contained in the degree itself.
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Well as I did spend most of my youth and teens reading books(its does broaden your vocabulary and understanding, yes in a childish and teen way, but still) and writing literal stuff(not just to satisfy my need to write something as I do it now) and as I did spend some time in this society choked by bureaucracy and double-faced flattery before I entered uni, so for me its not quite the same as just getting a degree. Right now in my uni it all feels like child play.
Maybe the thing I meant was that I actually understand and know the meaning of terms/ideas people misuse and I do use them in correct context and with correct meaning. There is nothing more frustrating then seeing grown human beans using difficult and "smart" terms just to make them seem smarter and more intelligent if they misuse these words. And the bast part about it is - there always are words you can use that are simpler and so on. I mean if it is not a academic level.
But yeah, can not deny that finishing/or not finishing degree educates you much wider then just in field you study. It teaches you how rotten human society is again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again...but most of work places does the same :D
And yes, people without higher education does sometimes feel like imbeciles, but there are as much imbaciles with higher education as without it - it depends on person most of the time, not on education.
--- Quote from: erious on December 08, 2009, 07:34:56 PM ---Having some kind of higher education is important - but getting stuck for the rest of your life doing something you don't enjoy just because it pays well is neither smart nor mature decision. And hey, you can make a living even in the most unprofitable fields - you just have to be damn good at what you do.
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In now day society it is a mature decision to choose education that will feed you, not the one that will fulfill your intellectual needs and cravings.
kurandoinu:
If that educations does both then all the better!
Osmo:
Thanks for the responses.
As much as I love the idea of going into something that I "think" I would love; like gaming, movies, music, philosophy, arts, this is where my brain is, I don't know exactly what degree I want to do, at the same time I get bored very easily, I've never been the type to sit in class and copy work, I literally has zero concentration, so education has always been hard for me, my attention span is like zero, trust me.
So social work is more personal to me because I have personally been in social care myself as a life experience, I admire social workers, this is my basis on working in it, plus I feel I want to give back to society in a way, through the kids, the course itself probably be boring, but education isn't supposed to be fun or enjoyable, its to learn i suppose, there's always the partying, on top of that I'm doing it for the job, and there's job security in this field.
Sometimes people love studying a subject, but hate the work, I might be vice versa, it will defo bring the money in. Besides alot of people do something they enjoy for awhile then can't even get a job afterwards.
There is no perfect degree for everyone, select a few people that have been conditioned into it from a young age and got no distractions about where they want to be, I am nothing like that, as much as I want to be, I am scatter brained, I have lost my touch with my natural talents, my biggest interest now is to pull chicks and make money and what I wrote before. As long as I get alot of money, I can buy what I want, and get the women I want I can have a detestable short term happiness.
and yes picking a course that will feed you, when I get money, alot of it, I can do the things I want to do, most of the things I've learnt is from books I brought out of personal interest and interacting with people in a social or work enviroment
harpy:
--- Quote from: kurandoinu on December 08, 2009, 08:03:06 PM ---If that educations does both then all the better!
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usually it does not :D
--- Quote from: Osmo on December 08, 2009, 08:06:11 PM ---..
So social work is more personal to me because I have personally been in social care myself as a life experience, I admire social workers, this is my basis on working in it, plus I feel I want to give back to society in a way, through the kids, the course itself probably be boring, but education isn't supposed to be fun or enjoyable, its to learn i suppose, there's always the partying, on top of that I'm doing it for the job, and there's job security in this field.
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I hope you understand that most likely you will need to study bunch of unusable theories and other unusable things to get a degree....
Osmo:
--- Quote from: harpy on December 08, 2009, 08:06:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: kurandoinu on December 08, 2009, 08:03:06 PM ---If that educations does both then all the better!
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usually it does not :D
--- Quote from: Osmo on December 08, 2009, 08:06:11 PM ---..
So social work is more personal to me because I have personally been in social care myself as a life experience, I admire social workers, this is my basis on working in it, plus I feel I want to give back to society in a way, through the kids, the course itself probably be boring, but education isn't supposed to be fun or enjoyable, its to learn i suppose, there's always the partying, on top of that I'm doing it for the job, and there's job security in this field.
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I hope you understand that most likely you will need to study bunch of unusable theories and other unusable things to get a degree....
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You mentioned something about people learning new definitions or words with the mentality that they are smarter, I see that as true, been there done that, now I see it as like....just putting more information into your head, most definitions leave me trapped, fixed and stuck, 90% of theories are bullshit, there's only 10% that will truly help you and you need to know...I've filled my head with so many theories thinking I need to learn this, this and this, to only come to the realization that most of it's bullshit, most people bullshit. They add extra crap to the original idea complicating it more and more.....urgh /rant off.
To what you were saying about the degree I agree, I spoke to quite a few people that told me something like, what they learnt, they straight away forgot about it after they did the tests and passed, they never needed to to remember it again, what does that tell you about education, theories and definitions?
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